Re: Theos-World AAB and The Maitreya and Messiah flaw
Jun 09, 2009 01:51 PM
by Antonio
Ok well i just thought i would address it as the way it was worded made me slightly parranoid but i am happy you cleared the point up. Thanks. I consider all the people on this thread as freinds regardless of wether we see eye to eye on issues or not.
regarding my take on destruction i would say it is the opposite of creation one takes life one removes it. Maya according to buddhists tells us the whole world is an illusion. When i spoke of destruction i spoke of it in the context of an end. Be it to reality or illusion.
Can you give me an easy to comprehend break down of ParaBrahm this sounds interesting.
Peace and blessings
Antonio
--- On Tue, 9/6/09, Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> wrote:
From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk>
Subject: Re: Theos-World AAB and The Maitreya and Messiah flaw
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 9 June, 2009, 6:24 PM
Dear Antonio
All persons are friends in my eyes. I am always addressing you and others as friends.
Assuming differently is just a sad thing.
I do always care, although I might err from time to time being human and all. :-)
I just said:
All Universe sprang from ParaBrahm and returns to ParaBrahm.
There is nothing but ParaBrahm. And we know this is the truth.
So friendship can because of that hardly be avoided.
Antonio wrote:
"If humanity follow they will become part of that evolution, if they dont they will have no path left to follow and destruction and death will ensue, althought this is not on an individual level but as a whole through a period of time. "
May I ask "destruction" in what sense?
Destruction is as I know it theosophically speaking an illusion and unreal.
There is only ParaBrahm.
M. Sufilight
----- Original Message -----
From: Antonio
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World AAB and The Maitreya and Messiah flaw
Hi Morten,
When you say dear freinds and Antonio am i to assume you are singeling me out as a non-freind or simply addressing my by name due to the fact you are replying to my email?
It is just the way you wrote it makes me feel singled out and isolated. I am not sure why this is how you choose to address me but i hope it is the latter and not because you consider everyone expect me on this thread a freind.
With respects to you reply i can understand your words and i would have to agree that i may not have adressed my reply with much care and that i could possibilly have used better words than non-existence but my intentions were good in that i was simply trying to say according to what i have learnt over time this outcome is a very real possibility.
A tree is already in alignment with nature and thus does not have to justify its actions. Humans are slightly different in that we will have to justify our actions be it to god the superconsciousness or lucifer (Theosophy's god) when our actions are not in alignment with nature.
My original point was that if we dont change when the time comes we will fail to evolve and as a result will eventually die out.
When the world teacher arrives and takes humanity to a spiritual and mental place of transformation there will be those that follow and those that resist.
If humanity follow they will become part of that evolution, if they dont they will have no path left to follow and destruction and death will ensue, althought this is not on an individual level but as a whole through a period of time.
The same way a comet moves through space and bits of rock fall away so to will be the movement of the world teacher. If we cling to his teachings we will become part of the comet and move toward the destination intended if we dont we will simply fall away and cease to exist.
--- On Tue, 9/6/09, Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk> wrote:
From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk>
Subject: Re: Theos-World AAB and The Maitreya and Messiah flaw
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Tuesday, 9 June, 2009, 5:47 PM
Dear friends and Antonio
My views are:
Now I might misunderstand, and if so bear with me.
Because your use of words are to me quite illogical in the below quotes.
Antonio wrote:
"When i said non-existence i meant it inline of the following context and not a physical death, however this eventuality may become a reality also!"
No. My Knowledge says something else.
And I am not assuming about this.
All Universe sprang from ParaBrahm and returns to ParaBrahm.
There is nothing but ParaBrahm. And we know this is the truth.
Talking about "non-existence" in the sense you forwarded it, I find to be wrong.
Remember you said in the previous e-mail:
"I would have to agree. Sadly those that do not obide, those that do not see the universal love eminating from a benvolent leader will utterly perish into non-existence. "
The question would be if those who disbelieved Krishna or Jesus Christ was non-existent or "dead" as you put it?
We do not say, that a tree, which is not seeing love, because it is a tree, that it is "non-existent" or "dead". Do we?
Yet we know a tree on its fruits.
M. Sufilight
----- Original Message -----
From: Antonio
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World AAB and The Maitreya and Messiah flaw
I speak of the time when the world leader arrives to greet humanity. A process will begin in which good and evil will finally be seperated. Those that fail to take on the benevolent teachings of the world teacher will fall to the waste side. Those that adhear to his teachings will move forward in their spiritual evolution. This is what i meant by what i said and by no means was a personal attack on any individual, simply an accumilated perspective based on the the knowledge of end time prophecies i have digested over time.
When i said non-existence i meant it inline of the following context and not a physical death, however this eventuality may become a reality also!
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger,who can no longer pause to wonder and stand wrapt in awe, is as good as dead." Albert Einstein
Peace and blessings
Antonio.
--- On Tue, 9/6/09, Henry B. Ellak <henrybellak@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Henry B. Ellak <henrybellak@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Theos-World AAB and The Maitreya and Messiah flaw
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Tuesday, 9 June, 2009, 2:02 AM
I can only say, that I have no leader, and """"I will not utterly perish into non-existence" ""!
Antonio. are you really saying, that myself and others, who do not have a leader,
will utterly perish into non-existence? I may be reading you wrong as I have been
away from this list for a while.
However, I do not believe in the leader principle, I have no leader and I am 64 years old.
I have not perished into non-existence by not having a leader.
end Henry B. Ellak
--- On Mon, 6/8/09, Antonio <spirit777child@ yahoo.co. uk> wrote:
From: Antonio <spirit777child@ yahoo.co. uk>
Subject: Re: Theos-World AAB and The Maitreya and Messiah flaw
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 5:43 PM
I would have to agree. Sadly those that do not obide, those that do not see the universal love eminating from a benvolent leader will utterly perish into non-existence.
Peace and blessings
Antonio
--- On Mon, 8/6/09, Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk> wrote:
From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk>
Subject: Theos-World AAB and The Maitreya and Messiah flaw
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Monday, 8 June, 2009, 10:37 PM
Dear friends
My views are:
"People are always looking for leaders; that does not mean that this is the time for a leader. The problems that a leader would be able to resolve have not been identified. Nor does the clamor mean that those who cry out are suitable followers. Most of the people who demand a leader seem to have some baby's idea of what a leader should do. The idea that a leader will walk in and we will all recognize him and follow him and everybody will be happy strikes me as a strangely immature atavism. Most of these people, I believe, want not a leader but excitement. I doubt that those who cry the loudest would obey a leader if there was one. Talk is cheap, and a lot of the talk comes from millions of old washerwomen. " (Idries Shah)
The Law of Karma is not bending it self down in front of ignorance.
M. Sufilight
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