Theos-Talk Archives (May 2009 Message tt00836)

People think that being a Dugpa is all pranks and fun, but the accounting  
can be a nightmare!
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
 
In a message dated 5/31/2009 12:57:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
Augoeides-222@comcast.net writes:

 
 


But Chuck, 
You also will have withdrawal symptoms if you stop selling  the dugpa's 
nets, ropes, duct tape, pacifiers, itch powder, blindfolds, red  hats and 
hooded gowns to say nothing of the effect on the bank deposits!!!  Lol! 

Regards, 
John 

----- Original Message ----- 
From:  _Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com)  
To: _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com)   
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 8:44:14 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific  
Subject: Re: Theos-World Avoiding ensnarement by Dugpas 

Do you  have any idea how hard it is to do nefarious and cunning work 
behind 
the  scenes wearing those big red hats? People can see us miles away! 

Chuck  the Heretic 

In a message dated 5/30/2009 11:40:54 P.M. Central  Daylight Time, 
_mkr777@gmail.mkr_ (mailto:mkr777@gmail.com)  writes:  

Avoiding ensnarement by Dugpas 
. 
There are references to Dugpa  in early theosophical literature. In a 
letter 
to Sinnett, HPB states "The  first bomb-shell from Dugpa world came from 
America.." There are also  other references to Dugpa in letters from the 
Masters. C Jinarajadasa,  former President, mentions how Coulombs were the 
pawns of Dugpas unknown  to themselves. Besant has mentioned that HPB was 
under constant attack  from Dugpas. Why? It is their job to attempt to 
destroy the TS. So is it  unreasonable to expect they are busy at work 
trying 
to destroy TS. So  one wonders about their role in the crisis that TS has 
faced since early  last year. 
. 
There has been very little discussion about Dugpas in  theosophical 
literature. In the minds of many traditional students of  theosophy, there 
seems to be some fear to talk about them. I do not know  why? 
. 
Theosophical movement is a monumental effort on the part of the  
Brotherhood 
in the modern era and the commitment and power of the  Brotherhood is 
behind 
it. A P Sinnett wrote: 
. 
"As already  explained, as far back as the year 1830 the Brothers â the 
Elder  
Brethren of humanity and those of still loftier spiritual attainment all  
merged in the Divine Hierarchy and constituting the sublime organization  
that we have drifted into speaking of as The White Lodge - held their  
momentous conference. They provided for the establishment of Spiritualism,  
and for the later experiment that eventually took the shape of the  
Theosophical Society." 
. 
Where does a student of theosophy come  into the picture? Dugpas use 
unsuspecting members as their cat's paws  unknown to themselves. Also due 
to 
the miniscule size of the membership  compared to the world population, and 
the monumental work, everyone is a  potential target of the Dugpas. Woe to 
those who fall prey to them. The  victims unknown to themselves, end up 
doing 
more harm to themselves  than they do to the movement. So it is the duty of 
each one of us to be  forewarned about the red flags that would alert us 
from 
falling a  prey. 
. 
Dugpas do not have any principles to follow. They are very  cunning. End, 
justifies the means. So anything is OK so long as the victim  is snared. 
Primarily, according to a statement in one of the Letters to  APS, they use 
of pride and egoism of the individual and once a weakness is  found in 
either 
of them, you are caught in their net unknown to  yourself. Of course other 
temptations like, sex, money, power of position  etc are also used. Anyone 
who researches TS history, can see for  himself/herself instances of such 
exploitation. 
. 
Nefarious work  is always done behind the scenes. Clever and cunning agents 
of the Dugpas,  usually operate behind the scenes, to make it appear their 
hands are  clean. They are likely to use other unwitting innocent sub 
agents 
who are  again ensnared by the same temptations as pride, egoism, perceived 
 
self-importance etc. 
. 
How does one protect oneself from falling a  victim? Very very simple. Just 
look at the first object of TS -  Brotherhood. Also look at the motto of TS 
- 
There is No Religion  Higher Than Truth. In addition, one of the Masters 
stated that a  theosophist is a philanthropist. If we check all our actions 
on the  principles of Brotherhood, Truth, and philanthropy and even if 
there 
is  slightest conflict with any of them, you have a problem - a chink in 
the  
armor - and it would be taken advantage of by the Dugpas. An alert  
intelligent man or woman, who sees such a conflict immediately  
disassociates 
and saves himself/herself with the proposed actions.  Also, if one relies 
on 
independent judgment and action, not try to be the  front or mouth piece of 
anyone else, one can identify the problems  quickly. 
. 
HPB once stated that she was troubled more by theosophical  traitors than 
from others. So, Dugpas are more likely to target active  members 
especially 
those in leadership, because this is the most effective  approach to cause 
most damage. Hence, if we are more active and perhaps a  leader, more alert 
and cautious we should be. At the same time, we should  not forget that 
each 
one of us is vulnerable unless we are ever vigilant.  
. 
Vigilance will save ourselves and the TS. 
. 
MKR 
.  
There is No Religion Higher than Truth 

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