Theos-Talk Archives (May 2009 Message tt00795)

>From the early days of TS, Dugpas have been active and creating trouble. A P
Sinnett had commented that Dugpas were responsible for some of the problems
he had faced. Besant had commented that HPB was under constant attack from
Dugpas. Today, many theosophists believe that Dugpas have not disappeared
like magic. They are quite active as ever. Many also believe that the hand
of Dugpas is seen in the continuing crisis TS has seen since early last
year. Here is some interesting material on Dugpas.
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In the following book, Raghavan Iyer inquired of Dalai Lama about Dugpas.
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My Talk with the Dalai Lama
by RAGHAVAN IYER 1961
LONDON
EAST AND WEST LTD.
1961
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Here is the quote:
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"Then I turned to him and asked him whether he was referring to the Dugpas,
to sorcerers and to âsoulless men.â When I said this, his interpreter could
not translate it because the word âDugpaâ has two senses. Literally, it
refers to an inhabitant of Bhutan, and using that meaning his interpreter
could not make sense of what I was saying. There is another meaning to the
word, meaning an evil being, or even a sorcerer, and to my surprise this
seemed to be unfamiliar to the interpreter. But the Dalai Lama showed that
he understood exactly what I had in mind. The Dalai Lama hinted at an
important point which was understood by Spinoza in Europe but which is often
ignored. There is no real distinction in the long run between the true
self-interest of a person and an unpleasant duty. There were unfortunately
people who persisted in doing things which were going to harm them above all
as well as others. He spoke with quiet compassion about these ignorant
though cunning evil-doers. It would be most wrong for us, he implied, to
condemn them or to dismiss them out of the horizon of our sympathy, as they
did more harm to themselves than to other human beings, although they could
not see it. Sometimes people were able to see the truth but through
selfishness they could not apply it. There were also people who were utterly
misguided in their view of what was in their own interest. If only they
could know, if only they were not so short-sighted through their own
desperation and through their own false concepts, they would see more
clearly what was in their interest and that this could not be so very
different for different peoples. In all conflicts the combatants ought to
realize that their ultimate interests were the same, but this was exactly
what was so difficult. Therefore, it was always the people who could stand
outside a violent conflict in any part of the world to-day, who, by their
awareness of this ultimate identity of interests between both sides in terms
of their common survival and in relation to the whole of humanity, could be
an active force for good. They could act as a check on the recurrent and
ever-increasing nature of evil, generated by folly, selfishness and above
all short-sightedness."

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MKR
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There is no religion higher than truth


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