Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of Truth"?
May 29, 2009 00:03 AM
by Antonio
Words through music of course :)
--- On Fri, 29/5/09, Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@aol.com> wrote:
From: Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of Truth"?
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 29 May, 2009, 7:27 AM
The final question, then, becomes;
What means is your Maitreya going to use to "reeducate mankind" as a
whole -- without using force backed up by a New World Order
dictatorship?
Leon
On May 28, 2009, at 5/28/091:41 PM, Antonio wrote:
> Which one is correct depends on the intentions of the perciever.
> If the perciever has evil intentions then an evil Maitreya will be
> appealing and vice versa.
>
> Regarding Morten's question. I did answer, perhaps not directly but
> i asked if he would wait for the album which will explain my
> perspective and take on things.
>
> However given the demand surrounding an answer i would best answer
> by saying i promote the better side of Maitryea. According to BC
> (Share International) Maitreya is a world teacher here to bring
> peace and sharing to the world. The more argumentative believer
> would happily associate Maitreya with the Antichrist. Once again
> this is a situation of perspective. I however am more than happy to
> promote a world teacher who's aim to make a chaotic world of greed,
> war, famine, disease and corruption dissapear through the
> reeducation of mankind.
>
> I hope this answers your questions.
>
> Peace and blessings
> Antonio
>
>
> --- On Thu, 28/5/09, Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@aol. com> wrote:
>
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> From: Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of
> Truth"?
> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> Date: Thursday, 28 May, 2009, 1:27 AM
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> On May 27, 2009, at 5/27/098:00 PM, Antonio wrote:
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>> Maitreya is different things to different people.
>
> The question is... Which one is correct?
>
> And, besides, you didn't answer Morton's question -- which now I'm
> asking. Are you or are you not "promoting a personal Saviour named
> Maitreya adressing the world"?
>
> On May 27, 2009, at 5/27/098:00 PM, Antonio wrote:
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>> --- On Wed, 27/5/09, Morten Nymann Olesen <global-
>> theosophy@stofanet. dk> wrote:
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>> From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk>
>> Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of
>> Truth"?
>> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>> Date: Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 6:54 PM
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>> Dear friends and Antonio
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>> My views are:
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>> So I was wrong in reading your words as if you were promoting a
>> personal Saviour named Maitreya adressing the world?
>>
>>
>>
>> M. Sufilight
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Antonio
>>
>> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 7:45 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer
>> of Truth"?
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>> I think it is important to keep things in perspective and not make
>> assumptions based on lack of information or fact.
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>> Like i have reiterated time and time again my intentions are
>> love, peace and truth based.
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>> If people wish to assume otherwise that is their perogative.
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>> I think people will understand better my intentions and outlook
>> on the 22nd of July, once my album is completed.
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>> Until then keep the love flowing.
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>> Peace and Blessings
>>
>> Antonio
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Wed, 27/5/09, Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@
>> stofanet. dk> wrote:
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>> From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk>
>>
>> Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer
>> of Truth"?
>>
>> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>
>> Date: Wednesday, 27 May, 2009, 4:15 PM
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear friends
>>
>>
>>
>> My views are:
>>
>>
>>
>> Antonio wrote:
>>
>> "The only difference is that the world will not truly know of
>> Maitreyas intentions until it is out of the hands of the people and
>> the government and the bankers and the world elite. Once he has
>> risen to the central axis of power i think he will address the
>> world and tell them it is time for change, he will give humanity
>> two options 1 to accept his world view of love and peace or 2 to
>> perish into total choas and anarchy. "
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> The following view by H. P. Blavatsky aught to be considered. <<<
>>
>>
>>
>> Extract from H.P.B.'s
>>
>> E.S.T.S. Instruction No. I
>>
>>
>>
>> H. P. Blavatsky wrote:
>>
>> "By pandering to the prejudices of people, and especially by
>> adopting the false ideas of a personal God and a personal,
>> carnalized Saviour, as the groundwork of their teaching, the
>> leaders of this "swindle" (for such it is) are endeavoring to draw
>> men to them and in particular to turn Theosophists from the true
>> path."
>>
>>
>>
>> "Stealing from us our esoteric Sanskrit terms, our facts --- which
>> he disfigures --- and even our motto, "There is No Religion Higher
>> than Truth," this self-styled illuminator is sure to prepare
>> thousands of enemies to Theosophy, when those "awakened" by him
>> will awaken to the sad truth of having been swindled by this
>> "Brahmin" & Co. Let all Theosophists be warned in time by the
>> Esotericists. "
>>
>> http://www.blavatsk yarchives. com/hpbes1extrac t.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> - - -
>>
>>
>>
>> H. P. Blavatsky wrote:
>>
>> "Year after year, and day after day had our officers and members
>> to interrupt people speaking of the theosophical movement by
>> putting in more or less emphatic protests against theosophy being
>> referred to as a "religion," and the Theosophical Society as a kind
>> of church or religious body. Still worse, it is as often spoken of
>> as a "new sect"! Is it a stubborn prejudice, an error, or both? The
>> latter, most likely. The most narrow-minded and even notoriously
>> unfair people are still in need of a plausible pretext, of a peg on
>> which to hang their little uncharitable remarks and innocently-
>> uttered slanders. And what peg is more solid for that purpose, more
>> convenient than an "ism" or a "sect." The great majority would be
>> very sorry to be disabused and finally forced to accept the fact
>> that theosophy is neither. The name suits them, and they pretend to
>> be unaware of its falseness. But there are others, also, many more
>> or less friendly people, who labour
>>
>> sincerely under the same delusion. To these, we say: Surely the
>> world has been hitherto sufficiently cursed with the intellectual
>> extinguishers known as dogmatic creeds, without having inflicted
>> upon it a new form of faith! Too many already wear their faith,
>> truly, as Shakespeare puts it, "but as the fashion of his hat,"
>> ever changing "with the next block." Moreover, the very raison
>> d'être of the Theosophical Society was, from its beginning, to
>> utter a loud protest and lead an open warfare against dogma or any
>> belief based upon blind faith."
>>
>> (IS THEOSOPHY A RELIGION?)
>>
>> http://www.blavatsk y.net/blavatsky/ arts/IsTheosophy AReligion. htm
>>
>>
>>
>> So why
>>
>>
>>
>> M. Sufilight
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Leon Maurer
>>
>> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 6:42 AM
>>
>> Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer
>> of Truth"?
>>
>>
>>
>> And that's the same kind of thinking that led to the Holy Roman
>>
>> Empire, the inquisition, the dark ages and the 30 year war... Not to
>>
>> mention Hitler's New World Order Holocaust. If anyone thinks that a
>>
>> messianic based "new world order" could be any different -- they are
>>
>> either totally naive, or brain washed dupes of the dark side.
>>
>> Invariably, power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
>>
>>
>>
>> Leon
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 19, 2009, at 5/19/098:31 PM, Cass Silva wrote:
>>
>>
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>>>
>>
>>> Antonio wrote: Once he has risen to the central axis of power i
>>
>>> think he will address the world and tell them it is time for
>>
>>> change, he will give humanity two options 1 to accept his world
>>
>>> view of love and peace or 2 to perish into total choas and anarchy.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Cass: This is a christian view on Armegeddon/Apocalyp se -
>>
>>> theosophy completely rejects this idea.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Cass
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>
>>> ____________ _________ _________ __
>>
>>> From: Antonio/Tony None <spirit777child@ yahoo.co. uk>
>>
>>> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 19 May, 2009 7:43:22 PM
>>
>>> Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of
>>
>>> Truth"?
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>
>>> Hi Cass,
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Thank you for your view point. I understand what you say but there
>>
>>> are truths that only those in the higher echlons of power know.
>>
>>> This darkness in my opinion is simply tool. Like the motto that the
>>
>>> illuminati use "order out of chaos" i feel that the new world order
>>
>>> has been given a bad rap. In my opinion the new world order is an
>>
>>> ancient plan that can be used not only for evil but also for good.
>>
>>> It is a centralisation of power. Once this power is centralised and
>>
>>> it will be then and only then can the agenda be enforced. I
>>
>>> honestly feel that satan and god are working together to teach
>>
>>> humanity to grow and evolve. In this process we fight against
>>
>>> principles of good and evil within ourselves and eventually we come
>>
>>> to a point where we realise within that evil is no longer something
>>
>>> which benefits us. Without satan as a teaching tool we would simply
>>
>>> have nothing to invest our more innate negetive selves in. Satan is
>>
>>> like a mirror , a mirror of all our evils.
>>
>>> The image of satan or dark powers evolves in our minds as time
>>
>>> moves forward until we are able to form a more clear picture of
>>
>>> what evil is. I feel the real people behind the new world order
>>
>>> know this and are merely playing their part in a great theatricle.
>>
>>> I don't feel the power elite, the bankers and politicians are at
>>
>>> the heart of this movement. I feel they are being used by those
>>
>>> even higher up the ranks. The end result will manifest in our
>>
>>> reality and our time of this i have no doubt. It will be down to
>>
>>> all of us individually as humanity to come together to heal a dying
>>
>>> world or to remain individualistic and see the world around us fall
>>
>>> apart. I know what you mean when you say there are good forces that
>>
>>> will not allow the earth to perish and i beleive this too however
>>
>>> the structure of our society could easily fall away and either
>>
>>> bring about total chaos or the greatest change, something aking to
>>
>>> the likes of the Venus project. Their are so many
>>
>>> conflicting pieces of information but all my personal and spiritual
>>
>>> studies and experiences intuitivly lead me to one conclusion and
>>
>>> that is that the new world order is on the cusp of bringing their
>>
>>> plan into fruition. The past may have had isolated pockets of
>>
>>> society being introduced to this controlled mind state/hypnosis but
>>
>>> never on a totally global scale. What hitler did was a half hearted
>>
>>> attempt at what the new world order will do. The only difference is
>>
>>> that the world will not truly know of Maitreyas intentions until it
>>
>>> is out of the hands of the people and the government and the
>>
>>> bankers and the world elite. Once he has risen to the central axis
>>
>>> of power i think he will address the world and tell them it is time
>>
>>> for change, he will give humanity two options 1 to accept his world
>>
>>> view of love and peace or 2 to perish into total choas and anarchy.
>>
>>> This will be either the great deception before christs arrival or
>>
>>> it will be the true way forward for
>>
>>> humanity either way the end result (peace) will justify the means
>>
>>> (total control).
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Peace and blessings
>>
>>> Antonio.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> --- On Tue, 19/5/09, Cass Silva <silva_cass@ yahoo. com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>>> From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@ yahoo. com>
>>
>>> Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of
>>
>>> Truth"?
>>
>>> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>
>>> Date: Tuesday, 19 May, 2009, 2:51 AM
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Will someone please explain to me in theosophical terms what the
>>
>>> motive is for these dark powers?
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Cass
>>
>>>
>>
>>> ____________ _________ _________ __
>>
>>>
>>
>>> From: Frank Reitemeyer <ringding2009@ t-online. de>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 19 May, 2009 7:24:51 AM
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of
>>
>>> Truth"?
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Leon, you have my day with your level-headed comments.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> But one should not fall into the trap to assume that another
>>
>>> candidate is better.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> They are all one and the same, otherwise they would not "set aside".
>>
>>>
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>>> And if they ever get off track, they will have an accident.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Democracy needs enlightened people, whose eyes are open and who
>>
>>> have access to unfiltered information and are mental able to make a
>>
>>> right decision.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> But that is not the case is those countries which claim to be a
>>
>>> democracy.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Neither get the people true information, nor are they teached who
>>
>>> to make decisions, on the contrary, the social pressure and mass
>>
>>> media do all to hypnotize the people and format the brains.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Doubt is regarded as criminal.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Non-believe in mass-media ideologies can bring you into jail.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> So no real progress since the alleged dark middle ages, only the
>>
>>> taboos have changed.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> BTW, Ben Gurion announced in the American "The Look" magazine in
>>
>>> 1968 the brave New World order with an Emperor, who will have His
>>
>>> coronation in Jerusalem.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> So I hope that the Jews may awake before and recognize that Judaism
>>
>>> is misused as a mask by dark forces.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Frank
>>
>>>
>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>>
>>
>>> From: Leon Maurer
>>
>>>
>>
>>> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 9:49 PM
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of
>>
>>> Truth"?
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Antonio,
>>
>>>
>>
>>> I don't want to burst your bubble, but that's the same kind of talk
>>
>>>
>>
>>> that the early founders of the Catholic Church used -- that ended up
>>
>>>
>>
>>> causing long periods of warfare and pogroms that caused deaths,
>>
>>>
>>
>>> injuries, broken families and destruction of homes of countless
>>
>>>
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>>> millions of people.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> No matter what the motives are of the "false prophet" (Matthew
>>
>>>
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>>> 7:15-20) calling himself "Maitreya" (actually destined to come at
>>> the
>>
>>>
>>
>>> end of Kali Yuga in about 400,000 years from now) -- who comes to
>>
>>>
>>
>>> supposedly take charge of the global "New World Order" government --
>>
>>>
>>
>>> it will be his sycophant inner circle of followers who will actually
>>
>>>
>>
>>> rule.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> And, as is well known to all students of history -- such absolute
>>
>>>
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>>> power, in the hands of unenlightened and greedy people, always
>>
>>>
>>
>>> corrupts absolutely. So, any government based on organized religion
>>
>>>
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>>> centered around a divine Messianic figurehead, and dependent on
>>
>>>
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>>> restrictive dictatorial laws to control the thoughts and actions of
>>
>>>
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>>> the people, is destined to fail.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> My hope (not fear) is that such a police state dictatorial
>>> government
>>
>>>
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>>> never sneaks up on us -- like was attempted recently by another
>>> sweet
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>>>
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>>> talking Jesus Christ loving, born again evangelical Christian -- who
>>
>>>
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>>> slyly stole an election, became the US President and lied us into a
>>
>>>
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>>> seemingly endless religious war -- with the help of his cabal of
>>> evil
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>>>
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>>> minded political cronies. So, count on me to be one of the many
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>>>
>>
>>> enemies of this false Messiah posing as Maitreya, and the New World
>>
>>>
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>>> Order shadow government that backs him -- whoever he is or they are.
>>
>>>
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>>> I'm afraid that any true theosophist who has already, or is studying
>>
>>>
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>>> and practicing to reach full self realization, knows that none of
>>> the
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>>>
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>>> works of man can ever solve the problems that man's works (guided by
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>>>
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>>> edicts and rules created and sanctioned by their leaders, and
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>>>
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>>> condoned by their personal greeds) has created. And no dictatorial
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>>>
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>>> government set up to solve those problems can flourish without such
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>>>
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>>> power, in the hands of the few, ending up just as corrupt as all
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>>>
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>>> revolutionary movements eventually become, when they take over
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>>>
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>>> dictatorial control of governing peoples lives.
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>>>
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>>> Of course, no real theosophist is for a fully self governed, "no
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>>>
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>>> rules" world... That is, untll ALL people are self realized and
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>>>
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>>> enlightened. But, until then, the only good government would be a
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>>>
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>>> true democratic government "of the people, by the people, and for
>>> the
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>>>
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>>> people"... With a leadership that can be kicked out when the people
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>>>
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>>> decide they are not serving the purpose they were elected for.
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>>>
>>
>>> Surely,, such a government will never be ideal... But it is
>>> certainly
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>>>
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>>> better than any dictatorship or monarchy over the long run.
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>>>
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>>> And, agreed, the global monetary system would have to be radically
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>>>
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>>> changed if such a true democracy could work effectively. But, we
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>>>
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>>> must never forget that each group of people with similar customs
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>>>
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>>> would have to remain free to practice them without interference
>>> -- so
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>>>
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>>> long as they harm no one. So, a homogenous global governed world by
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>>>
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>>> any dictatorial religious leader is not a realistic solution to the
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>>>
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>>> world problems.
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>>>
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>>> As it stands, the "New World Order" government you speak of, is the
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>>>
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>>> same old plan for world dictatorship and takeover of the global
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>>>
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>>> economy by the "Secret Society" of world bankers and brokers -- who
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>>>
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>>> are just waiting for another phony Messiah to, knowingly or
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>>>
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>>> unknowingly, act as their stooge in the role of world dictator --
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>>>
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>>> under their guidance and control.
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>>>
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>>> In no way can the ancient brotherhood of non interfering Masters and
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>>>
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>>> Adepts be confused with this New World Order cabal of greedy
>>> elitists
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>>>
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>>> and would be dictatorial monarchists.
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>>>
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>>> While I don't believe in your personal God or his supposed coming
>>
>>>
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>>> savior, I don't doubt your good intentions.. . Although, there is an
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>>>
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>>> old truism saying that "the road to hell is paved with good
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>>>
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>>> intentions." ;-)
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>>>
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>>> But, be assured that no true theosophist has to worry about
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>>>
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>>> "releasing the devil that is (supposedly) within them." ;-) The only
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>>>
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>>> one's who have such devils in them are those who would sacrifice
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>>>
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>>> individual liberty to a dictatorial government. So, maybe you should
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>>>
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>>> study the fundamental teachings of theosophy before you start
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>>>
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>>> preaching to those who truly understand and follow its Heart
>>> Doctrine.
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>>>
>>
>>> So, stick with your love-teaching music, and stop trying to convert
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>>>
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>>> into your religious beliefs, theosophists or any other spiritually
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>>>
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>>> minded independent thinkers who, while they, too, may respect your
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>>>
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>>> ideals, won't fall for smarmy, holier than thou talk -- when its
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>>>
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>>> underlying motives lead to any sort of mind-controlling,
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>>>
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>>> dictatorially religious governmental organization.
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>>>
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>>> Incidentally, after going back in my unread letter files and reading
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>>>
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>>> about your "overshadowing" as you call it -- I think you may have
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>>>
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>>> experienced unconscious mediumistic Astral epiphanies that could
>>> have
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>>>
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>>> been falsely interpreted as spiritual experiences. .. If so, I
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>>>
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>>> recommend that you study some of the articles written by Blavatsky
>>
>>>
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>>> about the Astral realm and the errors and dangers of such
>>> mediumship,
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>>>
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>>> as contrasted with true adeptship. According to the occult laws,
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>>>
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>>> there is no way for a living individual to contact an entity on the
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>>>
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>>> spiritual plane -- although there are entities on the astral plane
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>>>
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>>> (Buddhists call "hungry ghosts") that could mislead and be quite
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>>>
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>>> evilly dangerous to a non adept. You can find such articles at:
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>>>
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>>> http://www.blavatsk y.net/blavatsky/ blavatsky- articles. htmt
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>>>
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>>> Try this one for starters:
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>>>
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>>> http://www.blavatsk y.net/blavatsky/ arts/CaseOfObses sion.htm
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>>>
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>>> Apparently your jumping from one mystical teaching to another and
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>>>
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>>> your psychiatric breakdown experience are signs that should not be
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>>>
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>>> ignored before your next Astral experience, unsolicited visions, or
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>>>
>>
>>> uncontrolled kundalini awakening causes irrevocable damage... (That,
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>>>
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>>> incidentally, could be especially dangerous if you have ever or are
>>
>>>
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>>> now using psychoactive drugs.)
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Leon Maurer
>>
>>>
>>
>>> On May 13, 2009, at 5/13/097:28 AM, Antonio/Tony None wrote:
>>
>>>
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>>>> Hi Leon,
>>
>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
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>>>> I overstand your stance and your world views for a future based on
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>>>
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>>>> no rules. I feel this is commendable and eventually will become a
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>>>
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>>>> reality. Before this occurs the chaos in the world needs to be
>>
>>>
>>
>>>> addressed. I feel that the worlds choas needs to be drawn to one
>>
>>>
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>>>> central point and at that moment when the world awakens to the true
>>
>>>
>>
>>>> realisation will that point be destroyed and thus allow humanity to
>>
>>>
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>>>> move forward void of negative emotion. Fear surrounding the new
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>>>
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>>>> world orders plan is natural but the fact remains the freternal
>>
>>>
>>
>>>> brotherhood do exist and they do have an agenda to centralise all
>>
>>>
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>>>> power to one operating body. This is a very worrying and yet
>>
>>>
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>>>> exciting propesition. As head of this order, Maitreya will change
>>
>>>
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>>>> both internally and externally the processes by which we as humans
>>
>>>
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>>>> operate. From re-education, to the eradication of weapons. To
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>>>
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>>>> sharing with one another as a spiritual rush and taking the
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>>>
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>>>> monetary system totally out of the equation. The fact that
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>>>
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>>>> Maitrey may come to us via music is not something that should be
>>
>>>
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>>>> dismissed. God's biggest gift to Lucifer was music. My album will
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>>>
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>>>> be different and will totally challange spiritual concepts in our
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>>>
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>>>> reality but that will also be down to peoples interpretation.
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>>>
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>>>> People like yourself unwilling to accept such a movement as being
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>>>
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>>>> anything other than genuine and devinly inspired. You are the
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>>>
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>>>> people i need to reach most, the lost ones in the dark, searching
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>>>
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>>>> for the light, hoping for one day to realese the devil from within
>>
>>>
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>>>> you. Armegeddon is as much an inward battle as a world
>>
>>>
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>>>> transformation. It is ultimatly about vanquishing the evils from
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>>>
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>>>> within and emerging evolved into a connected higher state of
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>>>
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>>>> consciousness. If you fail to take this change on board your evils
>>
>>>
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>>>> truth. Love.
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>>>> Peace and blessings
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>>>> Antonio
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>>>> --- On Wed, 13/5/09, Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@ aol. com> wrote:
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>>>> From: Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@ aol. com>
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>>>> Subject: Re: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of
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>>>> Truth"?
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>>>> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
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>>>> the theosophical teachings -- to at least the beginning of
>>>> adeptship
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>>>> personal
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>>>> Secret Doctrine metaphysics actually shows up in the scientific
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>>>> knowledge?
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>>>> accredited, peer reviewable physicists who win the prize for such a
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>>>> brotherhood" ... That, by their example, teaches the rest of the
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>>>> the true meaning and practice of the Heart Doctrine of theosophy as
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>>>> the basis of *true* democratic government.. . With no need of a
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>>>> state
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>>>> messiah, returned Christ, Maitreya, etc., before (or after) that
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>>>> biggest joke of all is the delusional idea that the "new message"
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>>>> So, let's stop this endless speculative nonsense, and knuckle
>>>> down to
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>>>> learning and teaching pure theosophy -- so we'll all be ready when
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>>>> that "new message" shows up... And, afterward, have no need for
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>>>> Best wishes,
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>>>> Leon Maurer
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>>>> On May 11, 2009, at 5/11/099:55 PM, Cass Silva wrote:
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>>>>> ____________ _________ _________ __
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>>>>> From: danielhcaldwell <danielhcaldwell@ yahoo.com>
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>>>>> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
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>>>>
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>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 12 May, 2009 3:25:00 AM
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>>>>
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>>>>> Subject: Theos-World Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of
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>>>>> Truth"?
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>>>>> Was Alice Bailey "the New Torch-Bearer of Truth"?
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>>>>> Alice Bailey claimed that "her teachings came from the same Occult
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>>>>> Brotherhood that taught HP Blavatsky . . . . Bailey's guide
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>>>>> professed to be the same Djual Khool that was one of HPB's
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>>>>> teachers. Bailey also declared that her guru was the same Master
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>>>>> Koot Hoomi that Blavatsky knew."
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>>>>> H.P.B.'s pen in supporting the claim that Alice Bailey was the
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>>>>> expected new messenger of the Masters in the 20th century:
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>>>>> "In Century the Twentieth some disciple more informed, and far
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>>>>> and irrefutable proofs that there exists a Science called Gupta-
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>>>>> Vidya; and that . . . the source of all religions and
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>>>>> philosophies . . . has been for many ages forgotten and lost to
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>>>>> men, but is at last found." S.D., 1888, Vol I, p. xxxviii
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