Theos-Talk Archives (May 2009 Message tt00708)

Thanks for your detailed response. The discussions on the issues have been
going on for quite some time and I am confident that TS will survive all of
us. Take your time to review all the msgs -- there are quite a few a few!
MKR

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 3:31 AM, Antonio/Tony None <
spirit777child@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
>
> Hi MKR,
>
> If what you say is true and i have no reason to beleive otherwise, then
> your intentions are clearly benevolent. The preservation of the founding
> members visions are key to maintaining any organisation and when people
> stray from this vision that is when the true essence of the organisation is
> lost. I think in the heat of any moment we must be careful not to make any
> assumptions until all the facts can be validated. In my opinion every
> president is a puppet even JFK to many degrees even though he attempted to
> bring to light the secret societies of the world and what he belived to be
> their evil intentions. Presidents on many occasions are either elected by
> the people or by the powers that be and are open to the corrupting forces
> and powers that exist innate within mans greed and need for supremecy. This
> is why we must each be accountable for our own action and inactions. To
> point the finger of blame is to take responsibility away from oneself. In
> saying
> this i think it would be good for you to remember as long as you do good by
> yourself and hold true to the motto "there is no religion higher than truth"
> you can rest easy that you have played your part. Let each mans fruits be
> the karma of their own futures.
>
> In my defence i must add in my last response i may have deviated away from
> the heart of the original topic however my aim is to get a better
> understanding of the candidates intentions ie such as the fact that JA felt
> the need to study Psychological Warfare which in itself denotes the
> intention to fight others rather than find harmony and peace. At the moment
> i am merely on the fringes of discovering the overall picture surrounding
> the heart of our discussion so please be pateint with me as i fit the peices
> of the puzzle together to form an overall picture.
>
> I have no doubt that there are many members within the TS that we all
> either know or do not know that have pure hearts and loving intentions and
> until the day comes where all of these people are eradicated our of the TS,
> which in my opinion is almost an impossibility, then there is always hope
> for the TS so please do not be disheartened.
>
> Peace and blessings
> Antonio
>
> --- On Fri, 22/5/09, MKR <mkr777@gmail.com <mkr777%40gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> From: MKR <mkr777@gmail.com <mkr777%40gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Current Issues Facing the TS
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Friday, 22 May, 2009, 12:17 AM
>
> In the discussions I have posted, I have tried to concentrate on the actual
>
> events and facts surrounding the nomination, tactics and strategies used in
>
> it and the attempts made to defeat Radha Burnier and the unfounded
>
> allegations of voting procedures in India, and finally the secret attempt
> to
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> disenfranchise all the members so that the GC members can nominate and
>
> select the president, thus seize the presidency and make the president a
>
> puppet.
>
> .
>
> The cleavage created in the election continues to this day and is indicated
>
> in the block of votes against each nominated candidate in the GC in spite
> of
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> each nominee being highly reputed long term worker of TS.
>
> .
>
> Everything points to current crisis where we have not seen any leaders
>
> taking quick action to get back to business. Also the lack of transparency,
>
> and the past events lend themselves to wonder what else is cooking behind
>
> the scenes and I am urging everyone to be vigilant so that the interests of
>
> TS and theosophy is protected from the "leaders" who may be inclined to do
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> things harmful to the TS and theosophy even though they may imagine that it
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> is good for TS and theosophy since we, the ordinary members do not have
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> enough wisdom.
>
> .
>
> MKR
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> .
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> On 5/21/09, Antonio/Tony None <spirit777child@ yahoo.co. uk> wrote:
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> > Hi MKR
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> >
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> > Thanks for you thoughts. I have begun my quest and will continue to learn
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> > and grow through reading.
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> >
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> > I have not had a chance to read up on RB but having discovered the
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> > following on JA's personal website (http://www.jalgeo. com/index. htm) :
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> >
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> > Freemasonry requires
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> > loyalty to the laws of oneâs land and belief in a divine intelligence
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> > governing the universe, but it has no political or religious affiliations
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> > or programs, leaving such matters to the conscience
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> > of individual Freemasons.
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> >
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> > And the fact the he is a self proclaimed Freemason and then cross
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> > referenced the following from my earlier readings of Albert Pike 33rd
> degree
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> > mason and authour or Morals and Dogam:
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> >
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> > ."The doctrine of Satanism is a heresy; and the true and pure
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> > philosophic religion is the belief in Lucifer, the equal of Adonay
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> > (Jesus); but Lucifer, God of Light and God of Good, is struggling for
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> > humanity against Adonay, the God of darkness and evil."
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> >
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> > It leave a lot to the imagination.
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> >
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> > I can't help but feel the term Lucifer/Satan comes from the bible. What
> was
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> > here first Freemasonary or the bible? Did the bible originate from
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> > Freemasonary' s conception or Vice versa?
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> >
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> > In either case and in my opinion what JA has stated on his website and
> what
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> > Freemasonary depicts its self to be are two contradictory things. JA Says
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> > freemasonry is not religious and yet its is obvious higher members refer
> to
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> > Satan and lucifer which in my opinion are cleraly religious.
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> >
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> > Anyways onto RB.
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> >
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> > Peace and Blessings
>
> > Antonio
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> >
>
> > --- On Thu, 21/5/09, MKR <mkr777@gmail. com <mkr777%40gmail. com>>
> wrote:
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> >
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> > From: MKR <mkr777@gmail. com <mkr777%40gmail. com>>
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> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Current Issues Facing the TS
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> > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk% 40yahoogroups. com>
>
> > Date: Thursday, 21 May, 2009, 10:56 PM
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> >
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> > Thanks for your feedback.
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> >
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> > I strongly encourage everyone to go back to all the messages posted on
> this
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> >
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> > list starting with Jan/Feb 2008 when the election started. There are
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> >
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> > numerous messages containing a lot of detailed information and it would
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> > take
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> >
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> > time for anyone to digest all the facts so that a comprehensive and
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> > complete
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> >
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> > picture can be obtained. Without an exhaustive careful reading of all of
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> >
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> > them, one is likely to be either confused or come out with erroneous
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> >
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> > conclusions.
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> >
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> > For the information of everyone, I would like to repeat that I am just an
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> >
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> > ordinary member and have held no position in the TS administration in the
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> >
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> > past nor am I planning to hold any in the future. In addition, I have my
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> > own
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> >
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> > business for living so I am not beholden to TS and any member of TS for
> my
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> >
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> > livelyhood.
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> >
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> > More we take interest in the TS matters, better it is. And we all should
> be
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> >
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> > thankful for the power of Internet that is in everyone's hands today.
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> >
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> > MKR
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> >
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> > On 5/21/09, Antonio/Tony None <spirit777child@ yahoo.co. uk> wrote:
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> > > Dear MKR,
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> > > Appologies for the late reply.
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> > > Having read KEY TO CURRENT CRITICAL SITUATION IN TS i must say that i
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> > > strongly feel as a newbie to this election process that it was very one
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> >
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> > > sided in the defence of Radha Burnier there was no information on John
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> > Algeo
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> > > of which i would like to have heard more.
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> > > When we write such a script i feel it is important to not let our
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> > emotions
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> > > cloud our judgements and i must say this script was very emotional.
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> > > I dont wish to point the finger of blame but have you considered the
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> >
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> > > possibilty that Radha Burnier was herself behind the alegation
> concerning
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> >
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> > > her mental and physical state. This could back the fact that she
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> > possibilly
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> >
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> > > won the election through a vote of sympathy. Just a suggestion and
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> > possibily
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> > > some food for thought.
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> > > It was hard for me to form any concrete opinions as the script was very
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> > one
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> > > sided but i will aim to google and youtube the two candidate and
> reflect
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> > and
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> > > possible email my opinions.
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> > >
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> > > Just one other note regarding the non-actions of those within the TS
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> > during
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> > > these elections. I am of the beleif that spiritually enlightened
> people,
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> >
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> > > during times of choas, remain still in the eye of the storm. This could
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> > be a
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> >
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> > > reasons why during the chaos of the elections little or nothing was
> said.
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> > > Wise people observe first and talk second only if and when needed.
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> > > On that note i will further investigate the two candidates and hope to
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> > form
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> > > stronger opinions.
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> > > Peace and blessings
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> >
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> > > Antonio
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> > >
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> > > --- On Wed, 20/5/09, MKR <mkr777@gmail. com <mkr777%40gmail. com>>
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> > wrote:
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> > > From: MKR <mkr777@gmail. com <mkr777%40gmail. com>>
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> >
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> > > Subject: Re: Theos-World Current Issues Facing the TS
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> >
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> > > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk% 40yahoogroups. com>
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> >
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> > > Date: Wednesday, 20 May, 2009, 1:36 AM
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> > > You have missed the International Election like of which TS has never
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> > seen
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> > >
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> > > since its founding. There is huge amount of messages on this list,
> which
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> > is
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> > >
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> > > worth reading to get a good appreciation of the players,
> electioneering,
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> > >
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> > > their tactics, some blunders, etc. which is going to form a valuable
> mine
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> > > of
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> > > information for any future historian. You can read a summary in a
> message
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> > I
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> > > posted some time ago. The link to the message is:
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> > > .
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> > > <http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/theos- talk/message/ 50274>
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> > > If you are interested in reading the messages in the archive, Anton has
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> > > provided a webpage which makes message navigation very easy. However,
> my
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> > > recommendation is to read my summary first so that you will get an
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> > overall
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> > > picture so that when you read individual messages, the puzzle will be
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> > clear
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> > > and you may be able to suggest some ideas to break the impasse that is
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> > > strangling the TS.
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> > > .
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> > > If you still have any difficulty, please feel free to post a msg here
> and
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> > > all of us will help you.
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> > > MKR
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> > > .
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> > > PS: Anton's webpage is at:
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> > > <http://www.teozofij a.info/Teozofsko _gibanje/ After_Convention
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> > > _2008.htm><http://www.teozofij a.info/Teozofsko _gibanje/
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> > After_Convention
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> > > _2008.htm>
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> > > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Antonio/Tony None <
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> > > spirit777child@ yahoo.co. uk> wrote:
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> > > > Dear MKR,
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> > > > Thanks for your thoughts on this sensetive matter.
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> > > > I was not aware of last years election. Could you please calrify who
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> > > > lady was and if she is still the international president?
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> > > > If it is true what you speak of regarding the attempted
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> > > of
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> > > > members by the higher echlons of power within the TS this would be
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> > > > cause for concern.
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> > > > Do you know the people behind this action? Have they been held
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> > > > and if not why not?
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> > > > My only assumptions on this matter is that in any organisation you
> have
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> > > > those that work for the ethos and goals of the organisation and those
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> > > that
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> > > > directly or indirectly try to stir the melting pot for reactions and
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> > > > This could well be the case although in some instances if a decision
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> > > > made in the higher ranks to overthrow a member or group of members
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> > > is
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> > > > sometimes a valid reason. Not to say the reason is correct or
> incorrect
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> > > but
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> > > > without that knowledge all else is like you say specualtion. So the
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> > fact
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> > > of
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> > > > the matter is that we must work toward a positibe conclusion and
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> > > appraoach
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> > > > someone we can trust in delivering this information to us. if this
> has
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> > > been
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> > > > truely tried and still there has been total inaction then a move to
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> > > > those members must be considered.
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> > > > Regarding the members in India of which to this point i have been
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> > > unaware,
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> > > > perhaps establishing a more positive routh of communication should be
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> > > > discussed. ultimatly the TS has goals and aim they are trying to
> achive
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> > > and
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> > > > this can only be done by pulling everyone together and working
> towards
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> > > these
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> > > > goals anyone who isnt for this should be questioned and their
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> > intentions
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> > > and
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> > > > motives should be brought to light.
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> > > > Is there not a head person that these matters could be brought the
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> > > > attention of?
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> > > > Peace and blessings
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> > > > Antonio
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> > > > --- On Tue, 19/5/09, MKR <mkr777@gmail. com <mkr777%40gmail. com>>
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> > > wrote:
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> > > > From: MKR <mkr777@gmail. com <mkr777%40gmail. com>>
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> > > > Subject: Re: Theos-World Current Issues Facing the TS
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> > > > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk% 40yahoogroups. com>
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> > > > Date: Tuesday, 19 May, 2009, 3:07 PM
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> > > > There are many well known long time members who read what goes on
> here.
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> > > > anyone needs uptodate reliable information on any TS matter, this
> list
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> > > > the place to go to. This is a very well known fact.
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> > > > I do not know if you followed the various developments (you can read
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> > > > the details in the archives of this list) since the beginning of the
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> > > > year's election of International President and an attempt was made to
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> > > > her and the techniques and tactics used did not make those involved
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> > > > smelling like a rose. Readers know how they smell.
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> > > > In addition, the ultra secret attempt to seize control of the
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> > > > of a group of GC members. It is the good luck of the members and TS,
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> > > > TS is still not out of the woods. The proponents have neither
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> > > > and disenfranchise members all over the world. Members don't easily
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> > > > such unbelievable acts.
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> > > > In the past, many like Giordano Bruno and Hypatia have given their
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> > > > Today's Theosophical lecturers have been lecturing in a scholarly way
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> > > > talking about Truth, Fearlessness, and Brotherhood etc., but all of
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> > > > have been witnessing what went on, have been sitting silent on the
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> > > > Anyone observing all these, would be confused because they see the
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> > > > disconnect between the talk and the walk. All this, in my opinion,
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> > > > the cause and unless quick action is taken, it will be a long time
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> > > > the damage is fixed. As you probably know, already the membership
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> > > > statistics outside India is in a sorry state of affairs and none of
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> > > > leaders outside India seems to be concerned about it since no one
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> > > > about it. One wonders why? Your speculation is as good as any one
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> > > > MKR
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> > > > On 5/19/09, Antonio/Tony None <spirit777child@ yahoo.co. uk> wrote:
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> > > > > Hi MKR,
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> > > > > Is it true that you are saying their are members of this thread
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> > > > > and sitting in the background being inactive in discussions and
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> > > > > hoping they step forward to contribute to discussions?
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> > > > > Please varify or have i missread your reply.
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> > > > > Peace and Blessings
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> > > > > Antonio
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> > > > > --- On Mon, 18/5/09, MKR <mkr777@gmail. com <mkr777%40gmail. com>>
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> > > > > From: MKR <mkr777@gmail. com <mkr777%40gmail. com>>
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> > > > > Subject: Re: Theos-World Current Issues Facing the TS
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> > > > > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk% 40yahoogroups. com>
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> > > > > Date: Monday, 18 May, 2009, 1:52 PM
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> > > > > I think it is good to hear from others on this list. May be there
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> > > > > important ones that we all need to pay attention. If members do not
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> > > > > them, it looks like the "leaders"/"elders" are in their own cocoon
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> > > > > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 3:00 AM, Antonio/Tony None <
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> > > > > spirit777child@ yahoo.co. uk> wrote:
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> > > > > > Dear Group,
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> > > > > > I would like to hear of some of the more important issues that
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> > > > > > issues which currently have no visible resolution. In turn i will
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