Theos-Talk Archives (May 2009 Message tt00237)

Thanks John,

I think that I have enough personal experience with such situations to not judge people or groups (at all) according to somebody else's claims especially when these claims are associated with some special interests involved and suspicious methods or ways of acting. With time new facts are usually slowly emerging which allows us to create more credible picture. I don't want to put pressure on anybody but I remain open for any additional insight concerning past events. 

Warmest regards,
Anton


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> The only thing I can truthfully tell you is there was no indication about any of these negative charges in the printed class materials, Lectures given by Martin, or any contents I read or had possession of. My personal reality was that of a student and member of the New Acropolis in Los Angeles California. There were no items I had awareness of as far as Fascism, Nazi or other such things in any of the class materials or lectures that implied in any form a support or advocation of such. In fact Martin's having originally come from a So. American Nation once described to me his personal experience of having to live with soldiers holding automatic sub-machine guns on the street corners at interesections there and how he was discomforted by it all. He was the Director of the Paris Chapter prior to being sent to Los Angeles, it was named the "Pythagorean Branch." I have no direct knowledge of the alledged triple partition of the Organization as alledged to have been created by George Rivlag in foreign branches. One reason was that there had already been the split between George Rivlag and his wife Ada Albrecht and as consequence the world was divided between them into two seperated holdings and teachings. I only met Ada once, and the brief session contained no offensive references to fascism. Personally I would have never been consciously part of any organization of such a character. In fact in that session Ada asked Martin if I had seen the Flag of the New Acropolis and I hadn't , they then showed it to me. On the Standard was an image of a "Panther" this was meaningful to me as at the same time I was deeply involved in a major UFO Case wherein the Experiencer had a Tattoo in his left forearm of a "Panther" that was one of Two Tattoo's that were pointers to Tiahuanaco and Ticci Viracocha. The second Tatto was a "Spider" outwardly a pointer to Nacsa Plain and the "Regenerative leg of the "Spider Figure" on the Nasca Plain. So the Panther Flag was a strong synchronicity to me. The children and people in Bolivia and Peru revere the Panther as diety, Lake Titicaca is said to have the shape of a Panther and there is an ancient Tiahuanacan Panther Temple called "The Puma Punka" that was dedicated to the Panther, The destructive Moon before our current Moon was designated the "Puma Star" by the ancient Tiahuanacan Astronomers and was the central yellow point on the design on the top of the High Priests official hat. 
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> Martin may still be a silent Member of this Forum and perhaps he can dialog if he desires to. As I stated quite some time back he is a National Lecturer of Theosophical Society. 
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> From: "Anton Rozman" <anton_rozman@...> 
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 8:32:00 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
> Subject: Theos-World Re: Annie Besant 
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> Dear John, 
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> >Anton might want to view this video I recently viewed that featured the Director of the New Acropolis of LA years ago, Martin Leiderman. I think it is a chance to see a real Theosophist who was and is dedicated so much and sacrificed much for the furtherance of Theosophy.< 
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> Thank you very much for the link. I wonder if Martin Leiderman is acquainted with the claims about the New Acropolis shared by high TS officials in the eighties and what is his opinion about these claims. I am almost sure that those claims had little to do with reality. But it would be anyway interesting to know how the TS official got alleged critical insider information about the New Acropolis while so many members of the New Acropolis knew nothing of the kind. 
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> > From: "MKR" <mkr777@> 
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Sunday, May 3, 2009 7:08:10 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Annie Besant 
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> > Yep , his name is definitely on the credits. George Lucas , Steven Speilberg and a certain Author I know all went through the Film School together. One thing that indicated to me was the script name of the main hero "Luke Skywalker" skywalker being the transliteration of Tulku and Luke has the equivelant of a mahatma in the mentor obe 1 kenobe was it? "Skywalker" is also the name of one of Lucas's Business entitys. They didn't actually proclaim "May the Fohat be with you!" Lol! 
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> > PS: BTW a while back there was a thread in regards to "The New Acropolis" in LA California which I was familiar with personally. Anton might want to view thiis video I recently viewed that featured the Director of the New Acropolis of LA years ago, Martin Leiderman. I think it is a chance to see a real Theosophist who was and is dedicated so much and sacrificed much for the furtherance of Theosophy: 
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> > The Theosophical Society -The Divine Plan A lecture given by Martin Leiderman 
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> > in Ojai where Krishnamurti resided. I recall reading that he ad visited with 
> > J Krishnamurti and some of the ideas of Krishnmurti may have been at the 
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