Theos-Talk Archives (May 2009 Message tt00178)

Since anyone who follows the meditative path, such as described in  
The Voice of the Silence (as translated by HPB) can ultimately  
achieve samadhi and experience nirvana -- without contacting any  
Masters...  Neither Arundale, Leadbeater or Besant can have any more  
credibility than any writer of science fiction when they claim, or  
appear to have contacted the Masters... Who, themselves, are nothing  
more than ordinary human beings who have practiced meditation (with  
proper guidance), experienced the secrets of creative nature, and  
learned how to correlate its forces using only their minds -- just as  
HPB did to a certain degree.

Apparently, both Leadbeater and Besant could have no more credibility  
in determining who had contacted the Masters than any lay person...   
And, judging by their wrong choices and false interpretation of the  
Secret Doctrine metaphysics -- I suspect that they were the "dark  
powers" (or their dupes) who tried to mislead the members of the TS,  
by violating the Masters (and HPB's) admonitions, and attempting to  
transform theosophy into an organized religion focussed on a  
returning messiah -- that at least Leadbeater hoped to control.

Actually, I believe the real agent of the dark power (Dugpas) was  
Leadbeater who preached the false doctrine, and that Besant was  
simply mesmerized by him into believing Krishnamurti was the true  
divine Messiah or returning Christos.

Obviously, all such false prophets are bound to make mistakes (and  
force others to) -- which eventually become exposed by their fruits.

As HPB pointed out, all it takes to recognize theosophical truth from  
falsehood, is a thorough understanding of the true nature of  
cosmogenesis and anthropogenesis based on fundamental principles --  
as completely described and formalized in the Book of Dzyan, and  
explained, using at least four (if not all seven hidden) primal keys,  
in the Secret Doctrine.

So far, no one has ever found any logical errors or flaws in the  
original teachings -- which presage and underlie every proven theory  
of relativity, quantum (and soon to be proven string and holographic  
paradigm) theories) of physics.  When that happens. all the pseudo  
theosophical metaphysical theories -- that came after Blavatsky's  
original disclosure in the SD -- will, like all false doctrines, fall  
into the dust of obscurity.

Best wishes,
Leon Maurer

On May 4, 2009, at 5/4/099:43 PM, Anand wrote:

> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Govert Schuller" <schuller@...>  
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> > The 'apostle affair' came from Arundale and AB made it public as  
> > she believed him to be connected to the Masters, which he was not.  
> > That was her mistake, and a pretty grave one, and big enough to  
> > have us reminded of KH's critique of her. In those days I think it  
> > was only K, CWL, Scott and Hodson who were connected.
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> G.S. Arundale had published a book 'Nirvana', which was praised by  
> Leadbeater and Annie Besant. Do you want to say that Arundale  
> reached that state without having connection with any of the  
> Masters? And there are perhaps more indications which tell that  
> Annie Besant and Leadbeater considered Arundale as one in contact  
> with the Masters.
> Being in contact with Master does not mean that person does not  
> make blunders. Masters don't guide every action of disciples. They  
> have much more important things to do than that.
> I suspect that some dark powers might have involved in seeing World  
> Teacher project fail. These dark powers try to mislead some  
> individuals, so that good work gets spoiled.
> Best
> Anand Gholap
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