Theos-Talk Archives (May 2009 Message tt00132)

So Anand, are you saying that YOU believe in the existence of the 12 apostles?

Here is what Mr. Leadbeater claimed:

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...we can find NO TRACE of the ALLEGED twelve apostles, it would seem that as men they NEVER existed, but that they were introduced into the story for some reason ? possibly to typify the twelve signs of the zodiac....THE TRUTH IS that the four gospels at any rate were NEVER intended to be taken as in any sense HISTORICAL....
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So are you saying that you disagree with these statements by Mr. Leadbeater?

Here is your chance to set the record straight.....

Daniel
http://hpb.cc





--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Anand" <AnandGholap@...> wrote:
>
> Daniel,
> Please read my messages carefully before commenting. I inserted IF twice in my message.
> I wrote "if somebody accepts apostles did not exist" Note word if.
> I wrote
> "If apostles did not exist" Note word if.
> I telling the consequences IF somebody assumes apostles did not exist.
> Anand Gholap
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "danielhcaldwell" <danielhcaldwell@> wrote:
> >
> > Anand you admit the following:
> > 
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > It is true that if somebody accepts apostles did not exist, then much part of Gospels will go. In addition to that there is one more difficulty. St. Paul wrote about apostles Peter etc. If apostles did not exist, then some letters from St. Paul will also become false documents.
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > Let us look at the implications of what you are admitting here on theos-talk.
> > 
> > Are you saying that some of St. Paul Letters are "false documents"?
> > 
> > If so, then the gospels are "false documents", right?
> > 
> > All of these documents contain false-hoods, untruths, right?
> > 
> > And yet you promote and recommend such false documents....!!!!
> > 
> > If I mistake not you are the very same identical person who has said you cannot recommend anyone to read any of HPB's works or the Mahatma Letters because you say they contain terrible mistakes, misstatements and untruths.  False docuements you might so characterize them as!!!
> > 
> > And yet you have a website where you recommend people to read and study the Bible --- many of the books which apparently are "false documents".
> > 
> > And you also believe and promote the Christian message which is found in these same "false documents"....
> > 
> > Hmmmm.
> > 
> > Fascinating is all that I can say.
> > 
> > Daniel
> > http://hpb.cc
> >
>