Theos-Talk Archives (May 2009 Message tt00059)

I love you Pedro. No pedophilia, no satanic teachings, no conspiricies, just a simple question - that happens to go to the heart of the human situation.  So...here goes a little walk around the subject;

I certainly have a sense of self separate from everything else.  It arises when 'I' think because the mind operates in duality.  Stangely it does not operate in the moment that one is 'lost in wonder' in an experience of beauty, or of love.  In these moments what the Voice of the Silence calls 'the heresy of separateness' disappears.  I think that this is the reality behind Krishnamurti's famous saying 'look, don't think'.  This 'I' making capacity is well known in occult literature and it certainly continues to grow in a person addicted to acquisition of things or the need to dominate in debate.  In such a one winning is losing.

And yet....it is this same mind that is capable of uncovering the secrets of the universe, writing a poem, developing a belief system.  Such a mind is obviously important in the evolutionary unfoldment of our innate capacities as a spiritual being.

 John Blofeld has a wonderful meditation on a flower that finishes with the realisation - not belief - that I am what I am & the rose is what it is - and yet we are NOT two.

Thanks Pedro, for your simple questions; we miss you already

Brian Parry




--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@...> wrote:
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> There is a long and a short answer to that question
> Pedro.
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> Are you referring to the "I" of the personality?
> The short answer is : If so, my opinion is that once we individualize we
> have latent intellect.  As this intellect develops the
> sense of I becomes stronger as we record our
> experiences through memory from childhood to 
> adulthood - I do not believe that an entity perse
> exists but only an accumulation of thoughts, ideas,
> experiences (both good and bad) but that we imagine
> the 'I" is a separate and unique self and has a consciousness
> of its own.  
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> Cass
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> From: Pedro Oliveira <prmoliveira@...>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, 1 May, 2009 9:33:00 PM
> Subject: Theos-World a simple question
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> Is the sense of a separate self natural to the human consciousness or is it acquired through the evolutionary process?
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> Pedro
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