Theos-Talk Archives (April 2009 Message tt00299)

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From: "Augoeides-222@comcast.net" <Augoeides-222@comcast.net>
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 22 April, 2009 12:10:46 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: ??? MORAL LEADERSHIP ??? online communication





Cass, 
You should have Googled "School of Krotona" here is the listing: 

>>>http://images. google.com/ images?hl= en&q=school+ of+krotona& btnG=Search+ Images&gbv= 2&aq=f&oq=<<< 

Regards, 
John 
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From: "Cass Silva" <silva_cass@yahoo. com> 
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 5:38:02 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: ??? MORAL LEADERSHIP ??? online communication 

Hi Katinka 
If a person can use a typewriter then using a pc is no 
different - one only has to hit the send button. I am 
sure this could be passed on by others at Krotona who 
have expertise in this area. Also it would not take 
much to teach someone how to use a scanner. 

Also I plugged in Krotona-etymology- and all I get 
is a reference to Chakras - what is this all about? 

Cass 

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From: Katinka Hesselink < mail@katinkahesseli nk.net > 
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, 21 April, 2009 5:44:12 PM 
Subject: Theos-World Re: ??? MORAL LEADERSHIP ??? online communication 

Hi all, 

I think a lot of the current confusion is due to the fact that the old hands at Krotona (and in Wheaton & in Adyar) just don't know what to do with the new media which are used to spread information and misinformation, innuendo and fact. 

I was talking with my mother just this morning about this. She is used to the slow communication methods of her youth. Getting used to students who rap out a fast reply to just about any question is hard for her. Similarly our leaders are in a position that is hardly enviable: the internet and e-mail are used to spread ideas, thoughts, opinions - but the habits of how to respond to them have not been formed. With the result that people decide on what used to be the best response to many problems: just let it blow past. Giving energy to something will only strengthen it, after all. 

Or in other words 'if you have nothing to say that would contribute, hold your tongue'. But, as both writers below have noticed, this no longer works in the same way. And another saying becomes pertinent: 'inaction in a deed of mercy is a deadly sin' (mahatma quote I think). 

I'm not saying it is a deadly sin. I'm saying that we are in the midst of a culture learning to deal with a new technology that is changing the way we communicate. And the people at the top are called on to learn to deal with them while in the spotlight. It's not surprising they are making serious mistakes while doing so - because it takes another way of dealing with emotions than they grew up with. 

So I'm not surprised at not having heard from Krotona. I'm not sure I blame them either. 

There's a digital divide here - and some are crossing it with skill, others without - and some are simply not crossing it at all. It really is too much to expect people in their eighties to do more than observe what's going on online. 

Katinka Hesselink 
http://www.allconsi dering.com/ 
http://www.katinkah esselink. net/ 
http://www.overpein zende.nl/ 

--- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "t_s_theosophist" <THEOSOPHIST@ ...> wrote: 
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> ??? MORAL LEADERSHIP ??? 
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> It certainly takes no degree of clairvoyance to realize that a certain group of General Secretaries, labeled "The Quartet" has been playing "Dirty Politics." Anyone with a Clear and Perceptive Mind can see this. 
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> First....An attempt to depict Radha Burnier as physically & mentally unfit to hold office, contrary to the medical evidence of three reputable physicans. 
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> Second...A clandestine attempt to dis-enfranchise T.S. members from voting. 
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> Third...An untrue and unwarranted attack on the veracity of the Indian Section, with no evidence to substantiate the allegations. 
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> Fourth ...An attempt to disrupt the business of the General Council meeting. 
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> In the note below, M.K. Ramadoss raises a profound question which is on the minds of not only many Theosophists but also the internet public at large. 
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> I would also add: What is the Karma of Silence when confronted with the Sinister and unmoral activity that The "Quartet" has been and continues to promote? 
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> From what I understand, Krotona residents are long-time dedicated members of TS and I am also told that they are also members of esoteric section. 
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> Many of the residents are past and present theosophical leaders, lecturers and writers. So, rookie members assume that the cream of wisdom resides there. 
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> For ordinary members who have been following the events since the beginning of the international election last year, the silence of members at Krotona is a real puzzle. 
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> There was the spreading of the untruth about Radha Burnier's health by some leaders world-wide. Even after this untruth was proven false, the leaders took no action to fix their earlier allegations. 
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> Then came the unproven allegations of procedural errors in the election in India. 
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> Final bombshell was the ultra secret attempt to seize control of presidency by disenfranchising members world-wide, which was fortunately discovered in time and broadcast over Internet and TS was saved from a disaster. 
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> During all of the above, we did not hear a single word of protest against any of the above from any of the leaders " past and present" residing at Krotona. 
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> Is the above behaviour a reflection of the fear of the consequences of calling a spade a spade or they do not see what was going on? 
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> We have read in the historical accounts, men and women losing even their lives in their 
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> Rookie and ordinary members are really perplexed. 
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