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re: Who was the real Jesus?

Mar 08, 2009 06:37 PM
by Govert Schuller


I just read some of the paragraphs on Jesus in HPB's "Isis Unveiled" and did get the strong impression that she did consider him a historical person set in the time that most people think he existed. The only mythic element about Jesus are the later mythic additions to the historical person. There is a reference to the 100 BCE Jesus, but that is presented as the Jewish take on Jesus and not as the true take. And if you look up Jesus in the index of IU and read the small sub-headings Jesus seems to be presented as quite historical. Unless these passages are better explained as propping up her later claim, they have to be seen as either an early mistake, or HPB was not yet informed about the 'real' Jesus, or it reflected her own development in understanding the topic. In either case the contradiction doesn't seem to lie so much in the difference between Morton and Daniel as in HPB's work itself. 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Anand 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 4:39 PM
  Subject: Theos-World Re: Blavatsky on CARNALIZING the central figure of the New Testament


  --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "danielhcaldwell" <danielhcaldwell@...> wrote:
  >
  > H.P. Blavatsky wrote in December 1887:
  > 
  .
  > . . . true Theosophists will never accept ...a Christ made
  > Flesh. . . .[390]
  > ------------------------------------------------------
  > 
  > Quoted from H.P. Blavatsky's COLLECTED WRITINGS, Volume VIII.
  > caps added.
  > 
  > http://hpb.cc
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  Compare Daniel's above message with message of other follower of Blavatsky, Morten. He wrote in his message 49429 this and says historical Jesus existed. It shows how two followers of Blavatsky had contradictory ideas and it shows how Blavatsky's writing creates confusion. Below is Morten's message.
  --------------------------------
  1. H. P. Blavatsky, in Isis Unviled, p. xii:
  "To you," said Jesus to his elect disciples, "it is given to know the mysteries
  of the Kingdom of God, but to them [ the polloi^ ] it is not given; . . .
  therefore speak I to them in parables [or allegories]; because they seeing, see
  not, and hearing, they hear not, neither do they understand." - Gospel
  according to Matthew, xiii. 11, 13.
  http://www.phx-ult-lodge.org/isis_unveiled1.htm

  There are several examples, where HPB clearly were alluding to the fact that
  Jesus was a historical person. Try H. P. Blavatsky, Isis Unveiled, 1877, vol. I,
  p. xxxviii, 2, 34, 57, 130, 138 etc. etc. And try H. P. Blavatsky, (The
  beginners book) The Key to Theosophy, 1889, p. 47, 49, 71, 72, 79, 81 etc etc..
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  Best
  Anand Gholap



  

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