Theos-Talk Archives (March 2009 Message tt00049)

Subba Row is not in the picture here.
Christina



--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@...> wrote:
>
> Yes but when did Subba Row become the oracle of truth?
> 
> Cass
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> ________________________________
> From: christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@...>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, 28 February, 2009 10:47:54 PM
> Subject: Theos-World Re: HPB-- Faker or one with real occult power 
or both
> 
> 
> Here you make a good point!!!
> Christina
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "Henry B. Ellak ." 
> <henrybellak@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Interesting.
> > I have no opinion on this.
> > She could have been faking stuff,  There is some data from some 
> sources which say
> > this.
> > 
> > I take note of the claims that she faked  stuff but I withhold my 
> opinion on it. 
> > 
> > Which is better, or wiser,
> > 
> > to be called a faker, and laughed at,
> > 
> > 
> > or to be called a real occultist with very real occult power and 
> murdered or burned or hung
> > for being a witch or something.
> > 
> > I do understand that real Occult Power really scares people, and 
> when people are 
> > in enough fear, they will kill you, if you are the one putting 
fear 
> into them.
> > 
> > So, HPB could be both a fake and a holder of real Occult power at 
> the same time.
> > 
> > The fake stuff is so that people laugh at  her, have no fear of 
> her, and allow her to live.
> > 
> > end Henry B. Ellak
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Anand <AnandGholap@ ...> wrote:
> > From: Anand <AnandGholap@ ...>
> > Subject: Theos-World Re: C.W. Leadbeater, the greatest occultist-
> saint of all times
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 2:38 AM
> > 
> > Following passages are taken from a book. 
> > 
> > " [Blavatsky's housekeeper, Emma Cutting, demonstrated] how she 
> and
> > HPB had made a doll together, which they ... manipulated on a long
> > bamboo pole in semi-darkness to provide the Master's alleged
> > apparitions. Emma had also dropped "precipitated" letters on to
> > Theosophical heads from holes in the ceiling, while her husband 
had
> > made sliding panels and hidden entrances into the shrine room
> > [adjoining HPB's bedroom] to facilitate Blavatsky's comings and 
> goings
> > and make possible the substitution of all the brooches, dishes and
> > other objects that she used in her demonstrations [i.e., as 
> purported
> > materializations or "apports"].. .. 
> > 
> > The Russian journalist V. S. Solovieff claimed to have caught
> > [Blavatsky] red-handed with the silver bells which produced astral
> > music [in séances].... Blavatsky confessed to Solovieff quite 
> bluntly
> > that the phenomena were fraudulent, adding that one must deceive 
men
> > in order to rule them (Washington, 1995). "
> > 
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