Theos-Talk Archives (March 2009 Message tt00022)

The Dugpas don't want that place.  They like Chicago.
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
 
In a message dated 3/1/2009 5:30:38 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
silva_cass@yahoo.com writes:

 
 
 
As far as I can tell HPB had no time for Adyar 100 years ago - probably saw  
the eventual outcome - seems to me the place has been corrupted by politics  
and is decaying from the structure to the philosophy = disenfranchise Adyar I  
say - leave it to the  dugpas!

Cass

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To: _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) 
Sent:  Saturday, 28 February, 2009 4:16:46 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World TS Motto,  Foundation and Some Actions of Leaders

It's a good thing Theosophy is  not a religion or we really would be in 
trouble!

Chuck the  Heretic

In a message dated 2/27/2009 8:46:24 P.M. Central Standard  Time, 
mkr777@gmail. com writes:

TS Motto, Foundation and Some  Actions of Leaders

The Motto of Theosophical Society is âThere is no  Religion Higher Than
Truth.â The foundation is âBrotherhood/ Truth.â The  foundation is âBrot
let us look at certain events that took place since  early last year.

1. Early last year, members in many sections were told  by their elected
leaders that Radha Burnier is mentally and physically sick  and hence she
should not be elected. These leaders knew this is not true or  should have
known that this is not true. Even after three well known and  highly reputed
physicians from two continents (one physician is a General  Secretary and
highly regarded theosophist) publicly certified her fit, both  mentally and
physically, these leaders never took any steps to provide  correct
information to their members.

2. After the election, many  thought the election issues are behind us and
theosophical work will go on  with all vigor. It was not to be the case. The
losing candidate made  allegations about the election procedures in the
Indian Section. When  someone makes an allegation against another
theosophist, it is a serious  matter. When allegations are made against the
largest TS section, it is all  the more serious. The allegations were openly
challenged by the Indian  Section. What was the response? Nada. Anyone who
makes serious allegations  should have the evidence to substantiate the
allegations. When one is  unable to substantiate allegations with provable
concrete evidentiary  information, what does it say about the alleger?

3. As this was going  on, members around the world one-day woke up and
discovered the ultra  secret move to disenfranchise the members worldwide and
a group of GC  members seize the power to appoint the president. Even today,
the GC  members have the monopoly to nominate the candidates. The small  group
wanted to usurp the power of the members world-wide and take over the  power
to appoint the president, thus make the president a puppet. This was  a most
secret move and was to be quickly approved in the December meeting.  Even
long-term members working at Wheaton and Adyar and other  National
Headquartersâ were in the dark and learnt about it from Internet.  Members
worldwide were shocked and surprised and saw it as an end-run by  the
supporters of the defeated candidate. Some members demanded that it  be
withdrawn. It was met with stony silence. The silence speaks a lot  about
those behind the move.

4. After the GC meeting that took place  in December, very little information
about the proceedings has come out. In  a msg posted on Internet, the
President from USA, made an allegation of  improper election procedures in
India. Some have questioned the basis for  the allegation. To this day, we
have not seen a single shred of concrete  evidence of anything improper or
illegal in the election matters in India.  Again people in high places, when
making allegations about a whole section,  should be very careful and be able
to back them up with concrete factual  evidence. In the absence of such
factual evidence, it speaks more about the  alleger than the target.

5. In a msg posted by the Secretary of NZ  Section who attended the meeting,
certain not favorable comments were made  about two long-time highly regarded
TS members, one a former GS of a large  section. Again, questions were raised
by some members about the basis for  the comments and detailed justification
supporting these statements. To  this day, what we have is just simple
silence. You can draw your own  conclusions.

6. The NZ GS also commented on the physical decay of  buildings in Adyar and
the internal decay he perceived. Buildings in Adyar  are over a century old,
with such age what else do you expect? A question  that arose was, when he
saw the decay, did he ever think about what he and  other leaders can do to
help fix these buildings? We have not heard  anything from any of the leaders
addressing this issue.

7. On the  internal decay he commented, we have not seen any specific facts
to  substantiate the conclusion. Nor have we seen any such a comment  from
thousands of members who have frequently visited Adyar for decades.  Until
more specific objective facts are presented, one wonders if this was  just a
clouded view of a causal visitor to Adyar.

8. There are many  well-known members world-wide, many of whom frequently
lecture on  theosophical platforms and have been lecturing about Truth and
Brotherhood/  Brotherhood/ <WBR>Sisterhood and try to explain theosophical  
classi
the Feet of the Master, Voice of Silence, Mahatma Letters, Light on  the Path
etc. etc. When all the above has been going on, we have not heard  from a
single one of them. So there seems to be a deep chasm between what  they
preach and how they act when they see facts such as the  above.

When you read all of the above, dedicated members will wonder if  it is all
for real or one is in dreamland. Issues of human temptation in  sex and
money, people can understand and most members take a very  charitable view.
All organizations have, from time to time, faced human  temptation issues of
its leaders. Many members were attracted to TS due to  its Motto and the
Brotherhood/ Brotherhood/ <WBR>Sisterhood  foundation. They are lost because t
reconcile the acts of leaders with the  Motto and Objects of TS.

The damage the leaders are causing to TS and  Theosophy is very serious and
the effects are going to last even after all  of us are gone to the Astral
World. Internet has changed the world and  anything anyone posts on the
Internet is archived and will be accessible  for anyone for a long time to
come. So any prospective member who reads all  the message traffic on TS is
going to be bewildered and confused as to what  really is the TS organization
and theosophy and the disconnect that  exists.

MKR

THERE IS NO RELIGION HIGHER THAN  TRUTH

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