Re: Theos-World Re: How can we define consciousness as an essential part of a unified field theory
Feb 28, 2009 11:50 PM
by Augoeides-222
Leon,
Ok, will try again. I might say this was the only time I ever got that particular error code to my memory in the 10 years I have been online.
Regards,
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leon Maurer" <leonmaurer@aol.com>
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 10:30:30 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: How can we define consciousness as an essential part of a unified field theory
John
The links below seem to be working fine whether I click on them
directly or copy and paste them into the browser. Try it again, and
let me know if there is any trouble connecting.
Leon
On Feb 28, 2009, at 2/28/093:45 AM, Augoeides-222@comcast.net wrote:
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> Leon,
> When I click your hot links I get "Forbidden error 402 Leon Maurer
> Server Apache blah blah blah". ???
> John
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> From: "Leon Maurer" < leonmaurer@aol.com >
> To: SPACETIMEandCONSCIOUSNESS@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 3:21:18 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada
> Pacific
> Subject: Theos-World Re: How can we define consciousness as an
> essential part of a unified field theory
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> On Sun Feb 22, 2009 5:34 am ((PST)) "rybo6" rybo6@usit.net os_jbug
> wrote:
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>> On Feb 21, 2009, at 10:52 PM, Leon Maurer wrote:
>>>> Leon, it appears to be all magnetics for you.
>>>>
>>> LM] Right. Once metric spacetime manifests out of the Singularity
>>> (spin momentum representing this latent *physical* Universe) --
>>> there is nothing that isn't electrodynamic in nature -- and thus,
>>> magnetic.
>>
>> Your comments show that it is *not* all magnetics or even
>> electrodynamics for you.
>
> Maybe it will all clear up is you study the descriptions and
> illustrations at
> http://canonizer.com/topic.asp/88/4 All fractal fields are
> fundamentally composed of spinning (spirally vibrating) lines of zero-
> point space in linear motion, and thus, have a magnetic component --
> that is resonant with all other fields at different frequency phase
> orders. This is the root of all harmonics and electrodynamic
> processes on our lowest order physical plane... And is the basis of
> the overall Âgravitational force on the cosmic levels and the strong
> and electro-weak forces on the quantum and classical levels. Note
> that all material forms are fundamentally based on spherical wave
> forms, and NOT on solid straight linear structures -- which only
> occur at the gross atomic and molecular crystalline levels
>>
>> Now you introduce a *something* called Singularity (spin momentum
>> representing this latent *physical* universe)"
>
> The "singularity of Einstein is the beginning of this physical space-
> time. Since it is located at a single point of the underlying
> unconditioned "absolute" space (0ÂK) -- it must contain the entire
> potential mass-energy of this physical universe as nonlinear cyclic
> spin, or infinite angular momentum. (This cyclic spin is the basis
> of all subsequent electrodynamic energy fields -- whether in
> hyperspace or metric space.
>
> At the big bang, the initial field of physical space emanates in a
> three cycle continuous loop (See:
> http://leonmaurer.info/ABCimages/3cyclefield.gif )
> and (due to the horizontal rotation of this triple cycle loop) it
> radiates centrifugally as a hyperspherical (toroidal) spiral vortex
> triune gravitational field. This is analogous and corresponding to
> the initial field (1st Logos) of cosmogenesis. See 2D and 3D
> diagrams at:
> http://leonmaurer.info/ABCimages/Cyclic-paths-cosmogenesis.jpg (Note
> the 4th lowest order "physical" field)
> http://leonmaurer.info/ABCimages/Chakrafield-spherical-col_3.jpg
> (This is the 3D version)
>
> To comprehend how all hyperspherical toroidal fields (at any level of
> frequency/energy phase order) radiate harmonically from any zero-
> point singularity -- starting with cosmogenesis, see:
> http://leonmaurer.info/ABCimages/InvolutionToroidFractFld-di.jpg
> (This, incidentally, is the same as the harmonic electromagnetic
> fields surrounding the entire body, the heart, as well as every
> individual cell.)
> http://leonmaurer.info/ABCimages/Chakrafielddiag-fig.col.jpg
>
>>
>> You have left me confused as to what you think the word "all"
>> actually means.
>
> "All" means the entire hyperphysical cosmos and its lowest (frequency/
> energy phase) order physical spacetime after its third fractal
> involution (when symmetry breaking on the physical plane causes
> precipitation of the fundamental quantum particles as spherical
> standing waves of different fundamental frequency-energies)
>>
>>>> Spirit / spiritual = atmo-magnetics( highest frequency )
>>>>
>>>> { whatever an "atmo" may or may not be }
>>>>
>>> LM] The "atmon" (my coined word) is the metaphysical analog of the
>>> electron on the 4th highest frequency phase order (spectrum)
>>> spiritual hyperspace field. ("Spirit", in Sanskrit = "atma".)
>>
>> I'm sorry Leon, your use of word "metaphysical" and "analog" in
>> relation to a "frequency phase, spectrum, spiritual, hyperspace and
>> field". Makes no sense to me.
>
> Metaphysical means the hyperspace fields (spiritual mental, and
> astral) that surround all material mass-energy fields (of ponderable
> matter). Each field (at any frequency-energy phase order and their
> harmonics) are analogous to each other -- since all energy fields
> that radiate from a zero-point spinergy (or singularity) are
> structurally similar. As Einstein said, their is only one
> fundamental law of energy propagation throughout "total space." (He
> was referring only to the 4th lowest order metric physical space or
> aether, and didn't yet understand the non metric hyperphysical fields
> in the Planck vacuum as well as surrounding all the physical fields
> -- as now considered in superstring/M or QF and holographic paradigm
> theories).
>>
>>>> Mental = mento-magnetics(lesser intermediate frequency )
>>>>
>>>> { whatever "mento" may or may not be }
>>>>
>>> LM] The "menton" is the analog of the electron on the 3rd higher
>>> order mental hyperspace field
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>> Sorry, Leon, your rationale makes no sense to me.
>
> Then study the diagrams above and this one:
> http://leonmaurer.info/ABCimages/chakrafield.gif
> Obviously, the fundamental particle-waves on each hyperspace field
> are "analogous and corresponding" to each other. See the cross
> section of a photon (spherically polarized standing wave) at:
> http://leonmaurer.info/ABCimages/PhotonField.gif
> (Note that it is analogous to the fields of cosmogenesis, as are all
> the higher order sub quantum particles of the higher order fields --
> that I have given different names, "astron", "menton" "atmon" so as
> to distinguish them as well as indicate their structural similarity).
>
>>>> Astro = astro-magnetics( lesser intermediate frequency )
>>>>
>>>> { whatever "astro" may or may not be }
>>>>
>>> LM] The "astron" is the analog of the electron on the 2nd higher
>>> order astral or formative information field
>>
>> Again, I can make no sense of what or where or how any of this stuff
>> relates to our physical universe.
>
> Check the diagram at:
> http://leonmaurer.info/ABCimages/Cyclic-paths-cosmogenesis.jpg
> And note the similarity of the lower order physical spacetime field
> with the overall Cosmic fields. This is what I mean by "analogous and
> corresonding"
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> Material = electromagnetics( lowest frequency )
>>>>
>>>> { electro as in electron s di-polar charge i.e. + and - }
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yup, the "electron" is the fundamental negative electrically
>>> charged particle (spherical standing wave) on the lowest order
>>> physical/material plane (aether).
>>
>> A wave is a metaphysical pattern, not a physical thing.
>
> A wave is the cyclic motion (at any frequency) of the aether space on
> the physical plane. Therefore, as pure energy, it is equivalent to
> mass (E-mc^2)... Thus, it is a "physical thing" in itself. That is
> why all information carried by the physical fields (as modulated wave
> interference patterns) are also "physical. Waves are also on the
> higher order hyperphysical planes -- since they also exist as
> frequency-energy vibrations of absolute space.
>
> Perhaps your confusion comes because you see the universe as solid
> geometries based on Fuller's structural diagrams. Maybe the
> following illustration, may help you see what Fuller actually based
> all his reasoning on. Incidentally, he and I discussed this
> hyperspherical basis of everything back in the 70's when we were
> adjunct teachers at the same technical institute (NYIT).
> http://leonmaurer.info/ABCimages/Fract-Exp-Lt-Dk-matter-text.jpg
> Note the relationships between the octahedron and tetrahedron shapes
> as the fields expand fractally.
>
>>> It's opposite charged mass-energy partner is the "proton".
>>
>> This is the first thing youve stated that actually makes any sense to
>> me and is aggreement with how I understand our physical universe.
>>
>>
>>> (The "photon" being the intermediate fundamental (primary)
>>> spherically polarized (Â neutral) particle generated from the
>>> aether at the symmetry breaking after initial inflation on this
>>> plane. See
>>> http://leonmaurer.info/ABCimages/PhotonField.gif
>>>
>>> (At least, that's what my ABC model tells me.;-)
>>
>> Now youve added and "aether" to you convoluted mix.
>
> The Ãther is the total underlying space out of which all the
> fundamental particles precipitate on the physical plane. See
> Einstein's 1920 Leyden lecture on the Ãther.
> http://www.geocities.com/capecanaveral/6087/einstein.txt
>
> Here is what Wikipedia says about it:
> "Although hypotheses of the Ãther vary somewhat in detail they all
> have certain characteristics in common. Essentially it is considered
> to be a physical medium occupying every point in Space, including
> within material bodies. A second essential feature is that its
> properties gives rise to the electric and magnetic and determines the
> propagation velocity of their effects. Therefore the speed of light
> and all other propagating effects are determined by the physical
> properties of the Ãther at the relevant location, analogous to the
> way that gaseous, liquid and solid media affect the propagation of
> sound waves.
>
> The Ãther is considered the over-all reference frame for the Universe
> and thus velocities are all absolute relative to its rest frame.
> Therefore, in this view, any physical consequences of those
> velocities are considered as having an absolute, i. e. real effects."
>>
>> As ususal, I'm left sractching my head as to what it is what in your
>> GUTE.
>>
>> Thanks for trying to clarify for me, once again.
>
> I hope I've clarified it a bit better. However, since the cosmos
> goes much deeper and further than the physical spacetime (and its
> ponderable matter--energy) that science can observe -- it can get a
> bit complex when fully manifest... Although at the roots -- it's
> unbelievably simple -- since everything is made up of nothing but
> zero-point absolute space stuff.
>
> This space stuff on our experiential 4th lowest order physical plane
> (Ãther) is in varying degrees of cyclic linear motion at all
> frequency-energies (particle-spherical standing waves) between zero
> and infinity -- which are each rooted in spin momentum
> "singularities" (of finite mass-energies) located everywhere.
>
> Therefore, unconditioned absolute space, that underlies everything,
> can be both *empty* (of form) and *full* of (infinite potential
> energy and information) simultaneously (in each zero-point-instant)
> -- located everywhere in the original "emptiness" at the primal
> beginning, as well as everywhere in configuration (hyperphysical and
> physical) spacetime on the physical/material plane.
>
> Thus, the entire cosmos is a hologram -- with all its structural
> information contained in every zero-point-instant -- like the
> structure of all sentient physical beings is contained in the DNA
> hologram located in every cell. Thus, the microcosm is the mirror of
> the macrocosm, and everything can be understood by analogy and
> correspondence (with allowances for indeterminacy at any level, due
> to random acts of individualized zero-point consciousness that
> interfere with each other)
>
> So, if you still have questions, I'll be happy to try and answer them
> as simply as I can. ;-)
>
> Best wishes,'
> Leon M
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