Theos-Talk Archives (February 2009 Message tt00212)

Dear Christina

You cannot know yourself without learning about occultism.
That must be logical.


M. Sufilight

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: christinaleestemaker 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 9:24 PM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World Krishnamurti on who are you


  You asked about knowing theyself and not on occultism.
  Since when is knowing theyself occultism, for you maybe, but not for 
  me.
  Christina

  --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
  theosophy@...> wrote:
  >
  > 
  > So I take it, that you disagre with H. P. Blavatsky, the Masters 
  and a whole range of Seers from India, Tibet and other countries?
  > 
  > H. P. Blavatsky is clearly stating, that Occultism is dangerous to 
  learn about without a guide.
  > Walking the path without learning about occultism is impossible.
  > So if you want to call me and others "dullheads," where does it 
  leave you, when not listening to those who have experienced the truth 
  about it?
  > 
  > 
  > M. Sufilight
  > 
  > 
  > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > From: christinaleestemaker 
  > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  > Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 8:17 PM
  > Subject: Re: Theos-World Krishnamurti on who are you
  > 
  > 
  > Everyone have its own way and don't need a guide for knowing him 
  or 
  > herself, only the dullheads need!!!
  > Christina
  > 
  > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
  > theosophy@> wrote:
  > >
  > > Did you read my previous e-mail?
  > > How can one learn to know one self without being guided and 
  without 
  > comparative studying?
  > > Is it safe to promote a psychological revolution inwardly 
  without a 
  > guide?
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 1.
  > > J. Krishnamurti said:
  > > "I know that which I am; I know my purpose in life because I am 
  > Life itself without name, without limitation. And because I am 
  Life I 
  > would urge you to worship that Life, not in this form that is 
  > Krishnamurti but the Life which dwells in each one of you. Put 
  aside 
  > all the paraphernalia of beliefs, religions and ceremonies, and 
  you 
  > will find the Truth."
  > > (The seventh International Camp of the Order of the Star
  > > held at Ommen, Holland, August 6th, 1928) 
  > > 
  > > http://jiddu-krishnamurti.net/en/1928-let-understanding-be-the-
  law/
  > jiddu-krishnamurti-let-understanding-be-the-law-07.php
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 2.AN APPRECIATION OF C. W. LEADBEATER By Geoffrey Hodson
  > > 
  > > "As I have elsewhere written, I attended several of the Star 
  Camps 
  > in Holland and was present when there was evidence of remarkable, 
  if 
  > brief, supernormal manifestations. On more than one occasion some 
  two 
  > thousand people from many parts of the world were gathered at 
  Ommen 
  > to hear Krishnamurti. Each evening, all were seated in concentric 
  > circles round a large camp fire. Krishnamurti would arrive, take 
  his 
  > place for a time, and then rise and apply a torch to the camp 
  fire. 
  > As the flames arose against the evening sky he would chant a 
  mantram 
  > to the god Agni, and return to his seat. Thereafter he would 
  begin to 
  > speak, and on more than one occasion a noticeable change took 
  place 
  > in him. His voice altered and his hitherto rather iconoclastic 
  > utterances gave way to a wonderful tenderness of expression and 
  > thought which induced in those present an elevation of 
  consciousness. 
  > The Talks were followed by prolonged meditative silences. Many of 
  > those present, myself among them, bore testimony to the sense of 
  > divine peace which had descended, to a realization of the 
  Presence of 
  > the Lord, and to an assurance that the prophecy had begun to be 
  > fulfilled. These phenomena occurred during some few successive 
  years, 
  > the events being so marked that Krishnamurti himself there after 
  > changed the Objects of the Order of the Star in the East from, in 
  > effect, "To prepare for the coming of the Lord" to "To serve the 
  > World Teacher now that He is in our midst." I, myself, more than 
  once 
  > heard Krishnamurti affirm that the great Teacher was now here and 
  > that the "Coming" had actually occurred. Even now when he is 
  > speaking, with others I discern a spiritual influence emanating 
  from 
  > him, as if a great Being were still using him as a vehicle.This, 
  > however, does not constitute a complete fulfillment of the 
  original 
  > prophecy."
  > > www.theosophical.org/resources/articles/AppreciationofCWL.pdf 
  > (written around 1965)
  > > 
  > > 
  > > A Nobody or Guru or Messiah or partly a Messiah? Unimportant to 
  J. 
  > Krishnamurti?
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > M. Sufilight
  > > 
  > > 
  > > ----- Original Message ----- 
  > > From: christinaleestemaker 
  > > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  > > Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:50 PM
  > > Subject: Theos-World Krishnamurti on who are you
  > > 
  > > 
  > > http://video.google.nl/videosearch?q=krishnamurti+on+whoam
  > > +I&hl=nl&emb=0&aq=f#
  > > 
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