Theos-Talk Archives (February 2009 Message tt00173)

And in The Key to Theosophy we find a declaration of a similar kind regarding the Theosophical Society:[2]
The Society can be regarded as the embodiment of Theosophy only in its abstract motives; it can never presume to call itself its concrete vehicle so long as human imperfections and weaknesses are all represented in its body; ... If Eastern comparisons may be permitted, Theosophy is the shoreless ocean of universal truth, love, and wisdom, reflecting its radiance on the earth, while the Theosophical Society is only a visible bubble on that reflection. ... It was formed to assist in showing to man that such a thing as Theosophy exists. ...
Therefore there neither is nor can there be any system of objective Theosophy with fixed and detailed formulations. There are only certain fundamental ideas upon which each one must build up his own views, holding them tentatively, and constantly open to new perceptions.

--- On Wed, 11/2/09, univ7x7 <tony.gateway@virgin.net> wrote:


From: univ7x7 <tony.gateway@virgin.net>
Subject: Theos-World Re: Some thoughts on NZ GS's feedback on Adyar visit
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Received: Wednesday, 11 February, 2009, 12:34 AM







You write: The real strength comes
> from the members, and the vibrancy of the lodges, small and big. Not
the
> buildings or even the individual leaders.

Isn't it championing Theosophy, the Theosophical CAUSE and the Masters
that the Theosophist does, or at least aims to do? Is our loyalty to
Adyar, the Theosophical Society, the International President, or to the
CAUSE and the Masters? Adyar might now be the international
headquarters through policy/rule or whatever changes after H.P.
Blavatsky's passing, so it is interesting to see what HPB has to say in
August 1889:

"2nd. It is pure nonsense to say that "H.P.B. . . . is loyal to
the Theosophical Society and to Adyar" (!?) . H.P.B. is loyal to
death to the Theosophical CAUSE, and those great Teachers whose
philosophy can alone bind the whole Humanity into one Brotherhood.
Together with Col. Olcott, she is the chief Founder and Builder of the
Society which was and is meant to represent that CAUSE; and if she is so
loyal to H.S. Olcott, it is not at all because of his being its
"President," but, firstly, because there is no man living who
has worked harder for that Society, or been more devoted to it than the
Colonel, and, secondly, because she regards him as a loyal friend and
co-worker. Therefore the degree of her sympathies with the
"Theosophical Society and Adyar" depends upon the degree of the
loyalty of that Society to the CAUSE. Let it break away from the
original lines and show disloyalty in its policy to the CAUSE and the
original programme of the Society, and H.P.B. calling the T.S. disloyal,
will shake it off like dust from her feet.

"And what does "loyalty to Adyar" mean, in the name of all
wonders? What is Adyar, apart from that CAUSE and the two (not one
Founder, if you please) who represent it? Why not loyal to the compound
or the bathroom of Adyar? Adyar is the present Headquarters of the
Society, because these "Headquarters are wherever the President
is," as stated in the rules. To be logical, the Fellows of the T.S.
had to be loyal to Japan while Col. Olcott was there, and to London
during his presence here. There is no longer a "Parent Society";
it is abolished and replaced by an aggregate body of Theosophical
Societies, all autonomous, as are the States of America, and all under
one Head-President, who, together with H. P. Blavatsky, will champion
the CAUSE against the whole world. Such is the real state of
things." ("A Puzzle from Adyar": Lucifer vol. IV, no. 24; CW
vol. XI, pages 380-81)

Tony

--- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, MKR <mkr777@...> wrote:
>
> Some thoughts on NZ GS's feedback on Adyar visit
>
> We may recall the impressions that the NZ GS got when he visited Adyar
in
> December. On closer look at the impressions, there are several facts
that
> need to be taken account of.
>
> Firstly, his stay at Adyar was very short. Secondly, the conditions in
India
> is so different from the one from which he comes from. Thirdly, we do
not
> know what his expectations were when he landed in India.
>
> TS in India is very vibrant and healthy and growing as compared to the
> decline in the membership in rest of the world. So, the underpinning
of the
> strength of TS in India is not in the buildings or the opinions of a
few
> people which may be colored by their own biases. The real strength
comes
> from the members, and the vibrancy of the lodges, small and big. Not
the
> buildings or even the individual leaders.
>
> To understand the conditions in India, one has to live and travel the
> country for several months to get a good feel of what is really going
on in
> the TS lodges. One has to live and travel and experience like an
average
> local citizen. Ernest Wood of the Seven Rays fame, as a young man went
to
> India and lived like a native Indian and worked in India for several
> decades. His first hand account in his book "Is This Theosophy?" is
worth
> reading for anyone interested in India. (One time this book was very
rare
> and now one can find it on-line.)
>
> In view of this, any criticisms based on a short stay in Adyar, need
to be
> taken with a big grain of salt. However, as regards the physical
conditions
> of the buildings at Adyar and the need for fixing them, it can be
taken care
> of with money. All we need is to raise some funds for this purpose and
use
> them for fixing the buildings. I suggest that we start fund raising
for this
> specific purpose and I will be the first one to make a donation within
my
> means.
>
> My 0.02.
>
> MKR
>
>
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