Theos-Talk Archives (January 2009 Message tt00555)

I don't worry about it at all.  The first rule to be a Theosophist is  to 
make up your own mind and that means not buying into the minds of everyone  else. 
 And it does not hurt for them to learn quickly that the second rule  is that 
we have to be a little crazy.  And sometimes a lot crazy, as  evidenced by 
this list at times.
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
 
In a message dated 1/22/2009 9:15:01 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
adelasie@sbcglobal.net writes:

 
 
 
Hmmmm, 
well, Chuck, I worry about it! 

I think, Cass, that a bit  of information is useful. 
We don't usually post the writings of others  without attribution. 
It's a copyright issue as much as anything. But let's  also think 
about who is reading and what they might be thinking. If they  think 
that someone who regularly posts, such as Christina, is personally  
promoting the information that appeared under her name, what can they  
surmise? That theosophy is not what it seems, at the very least? 
Don't  we have a responsibility to represent the teaching  accurately?

Adelasie

On 21 Jan 2009 at 15:42, Cass Silva  wrote:

> 
> Adelasie
> How else will a student learn  discrimination? - and to think for 
> themselves?
> Cass
>  
> --- On Thu, 22/1/09, _Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com)  
<_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) >  wrote:
> 
> From: _Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com)  <_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ 
(mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) >
>  Subject: Re: Theos-World Can we see Obama as Hitler in Mass Psychosis.
>  To: _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) 
>  Received: Thursday, 22 January, 2009, 10:04 AM
> 
> Hell, we never  worried about it before! No point in starting now.
> 
> Chuck the  Heretic
> 
> In a message dated 1/21/2009 9:53:35 A.M. Central  Standard Time,
> adelasie@sbcglobal. net writes:
> 
>  Christina,
> 
> Thanks for clearing that up. It is a good idea,  when you post to the
> list, to differentiate between things you write  that are original to
> you, and things that come from another source. It  is pretty shocking
> to read something so dark that seems as if it comes  from a member of
> the list.
> 
> Indeed it is a good thing  to be aware of what is happening, what is
> being said. But it is also  good to point out how this fits into
> theosophy. Think of the many,  possibly hundreds or more, people who
> read this list and never post.  Young people, students, people who are
> touching theosophy for the  first time, most of whom don't feel they
> know enough or are  comfortable enough discussing these issues to post
> in public. "Don't  we owe it to them to be clear about what we are
> saying and to give  them a fair representation of what theosophy is
> all about?
>  
> Adelasie
> 
> On 21 Jan 2009 at 11:17,  christinaleestemake On 21 Ja
> 
> >
> > In the first  place that sory is not my meaning but from Davidicke.
> > In the  other place I want to see what other think of that and in the
> >  third place I think that NLP use is the point of black magic, for
> >  this sixth principle HPB just warned us.
> >
> > We prefer  the familiar darkness to the unfamiliar Light."
> >
> > That  are your words and Idon't agree with that.
> >
> > If you  see the reaction of Martin after the posting of this, you see
> >  what he have to see over NLP and I do totally agree with him.
> > If  used in a personal way it is bad and selfish , there are other
> >  ways in which that is not.
> > Christina
> >
> >  --- In _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos-  --- In _theos
> ups.com) ,
> "adelasie" <adelasie@.. a> wrote:
>  > >
> > > Christina,
> > >
> > > If  I understand that your post is serious and that you really wish
> >  > the list to consider your statements, I must say that your post  is
> > > evidence of the same blindness and fear that HPB and all  great
> > > teachers fought throughout the ages. Humanity has a  choice: we can
> > > choose to reject progress along the path to  enlightennent, to turn
> > > away from the Light and plunge  ourselves again into future eons of
> > > man's inhumanity to man,  and to all nature, or we can embrace the
> > > change that is  coming and proceed with love and faith, hope and
> > > courage.  Theosophy teaches the student to learn to think for
> >  himself,
> > > and, while you have the right to your opinion, it  is important 
> that
> > > all other students realize that  intellectual manipulation of
> > paranoia
> > > and  fear-mongering, such as your post consists of, does not
> > >  necessarily reflect truth. What it points to the most is the old
> >  > saying, "We prefer the familiar darkness to the unfamiliar  Light."
> > >
> > > Theosophhy teaches the that all  life is one. There is no them and
> > us,
> > > no  perpetrator and victim. We are all responsible for the
> >  conditions
> > > in which we live and for the leaders we have. We  are not mindless
> > > automata, being led by some diabolical  mastermind. Not unless we
> > > choose to be. This theory you  propound is a good example of 
> exactly
> > > the kind of  thinking it professes to expose. The evidence is
> > > everywhere.  Humanity has come to a crossroads and it is time to
> > > choose a  new direction. This is why theosophy emerged when it did,
> > >  why so many Great Souls have been working tirelessly to bring the
> >  > realization to all humanity that it is time to be done with greed
>  > and
> > > selfishness, fear and dispair.
> >  >
> > > Take courage and take control of your own mind, of your  own life.
> > > Look within your own heart if you want to know the  truth. It is
> > > always there. Leave fear and anguish behind and  step boldly 
> forward
> > > into the Light that awaits us  all, if we will only embrace it.
> > >
> > >  Adelaise
> > >
> > > On 20 Jan 2009 at 12:41,  christinaleestemake On 20 J
> > >
> > > >
>  > > > the use of NLP have all to do with it too.
> > >  > Christina
> > > >
> > > > --- In  _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos-
> talk@yahoogro  ups.com)
> , "adelasie" <adelasie@> wrote:
> > > >  >
> > > > > Christina,
> > > >  >
> > > > > What does all this have to do with  theosophy?
> > > > >
> > > > >  Adelasie
> > > > >
> > > > > On 19 Jan  2009 at 20:53, christinaleestemake On 19 J
> > > > >
>  > > > > >
> > > > > > Obama's speeches are  a mass of mind-control techniques and
> > Neuro-
> > >  > > > Linguistic-Programm Linguistic-Programm <WBR>ing,  o
> > > > constructed to
> > > > > >  implant beliefs and perceptions into the mind of the viewer.
> >  Click
> > > > > > here for a description of his  psycho-babble, headed An
> > > > Examination of
> >  > > > > Obama's Use of Hidden Hypnosis Techniques in His  Speeches.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>  >
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