Theos-Talk Archives (January 2009 Message tt00148)

There comes a time when all this arguing about the dead words of dead  people 
gets pretty tiresome and I don't follow the threads on who did what  obscene 
thing to which dead person very much any more.
 
It does not matter.  What matters is that Theosophy is a living,  breathing 
thing in spite of its scandals and the absurdities of some of its  leaders over 
the years.  The fundamentalist Christians quake with fear at  our very name.  
Spiritual tyrants everywhere shake at the thought of our  mere presence.  
Aging, few in numbers, we are a force in the world because  we stand for 
something that transcends our petty, meaningless squabbles.   We are the force of 
Heresy, of Dissension, of the ability of humanity to find  its own path in the 
Cosmos without being ordered into any particular  direction.
 
And, in a very real sense, our fights among ourselves are a part of that  
because disagreement is a part of the system, a necessary part.  We will  never 
agree on much of anything but at least we can show the world that people  can 
agree to disagree on such things and not shoot each other down in the  streets 
over them.
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
 
In a message dated 1/8/2009 9:39:22 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
raquel_rpj@yahoo.es writes:

 
 
 


Cass, Chistina

Yes, provably I took it wrong. I have  to say I did not read the whole of the 
discussion, I <WBR>agree the  word is been said far too much and this 
discussion is getting nowhere. I think  all Theosophist are acquainted with the 
Leadbeater-Beasant controversy and  everyone has their own right to choose whether 
they want to study without  being insulted for 
Discussion about controversies and different  teachings have been very 
important to me in the past of this forum,  as I have been able to gather as many 
different point of views as  possible and arrive at my own conclusions. After 
certain point and over  certain tone the discussion becomes nonsense and even  
annoying.

Warm Regards

Raquel

--- El jue,  8/1/09, Cass Silva <_silva_cass@yahoo.sil_ 
(mailto:silva_cass@yahoo.com) >  escribió:

De: Cass Silva <_silva_cass@yahoo.sil_ (mailto:silva_cass@yahoo.com) >
Asunto:  Re: Theos-World Re: TS Adyar's policy or non-policy?
Para: _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) 
Fecha:  jueves, 8 enero, 2009 3:14

My reading was that Zaitev was making the  point that anyone can be called a 
paedofile but that doesn't prove the  accusation - it was a defence of 
Leadbeater - innocent until proven  guilty

One would imagine though that leadbeater would have expressed  the same sort 
of anger that Morten did - but then we cannot ask people to  behave the way we 
expect them too.  Anyway I close with the 'not the  paedofilia thing again'

Cass



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From: Raquel Rodríguez <raquel_rpj@raquel_rpj@<W>
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Thursday, 8 January, 2009  8:44:38 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: TS Adyar's policy or  non-policy?

Zaiztev

I think, it would be more correct  if you use the pronoun I instead we. 
Myself personally, would not find  any reason at all to apply such an adjective on 
Morten. I also can not imagine  what drives you to make such an insulting 
assertion, but sounds totally  unnecessary.
Maybe is not we that insult Morten, but You, who insults  everyone.

Raquel

--- El mié, 7/1/09, Konstantin Zaitzev  <kay_ziatz@yahoo. com> escribió:

De: Konstantin Zaitzev  <kay_ziatz@yahoo. com>
Asunto: Theos-World Re: TS Adyar's policy or  non-policy?
Para: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Fecha: miércoles, 7 enero,  2009 6:56

--- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "Morten Nymann  Olesen"
<global-theosophy@ ...> wrote:

> C. W. Leadbeater  was given the name phaedophile in may 1906.

We can give this name to  you too.

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