Re: Theos-World Re: TS Adyar's policy or non-policy?
Jan 03, 2009 11:31 AM
by Morten Nymann Olesen
Dear friends and Joseph
My views are:
Try these links Joseph. Most of them are from my Theos-talk message Apr 17, 2005:
1.
A Vatican view: "Vatican Newspaper comments on Madame Blavatsky", May 7, 1998
http://www.blavatsky.net/features/vane/vane1998/roman-observer.htm
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2.
>>> Secrets of the Inquisition <<<
A Vatican exhibition tries to shed new light on one of the darker chapters in the church's history, Feb 29, 2008
http://www.cathnews.com/news/406/89.php
"JESUS CHRIST THE BEARER OF THE WATER OF LIFE"
A Christian reflection on the âNew Ageâ (feb. 2003)
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/interelg/documents/rc_pc_interelg_doc_20030203_new-age_en.html
Vatican deals with Inquisition and New Age in same breath (2004)
http://www.newsweek.com/id/117161
More on: Vatican deals with Inquisition and New Age in same breath (2004)
http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/20040615.htm
3.
- - - - - - - Extra info - - - - - - -
The Church stance on the Inquisition
" Vatican 'dispels Inquisition myths' "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3809983.stm (BBC - Tuesday, 15 June, 2004)
Encyclopedia of - The Catholic Church
"II. THE SUPPRESSION OF HERESY BY THE INSTITUTION KNOWN AS THE INQUISITION"
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08026a.htm
Torture instruments - the Inquisition
http://www.thelivingweb.net/punishment_and_instruments_of_torture.html
Witchcraft at the Inquisition - The Caradinals at their best
http://www.paralumun.com/inquisition.htm
Pope Innocent VIII - Papal Bull
"Summis desiderantes"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summis_desiderantes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Innocent_VIII (Pope VIII - "father of Rome")
Pope Innocent III and his crusade against the Kathars
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albigensian_Crusade
(Perhaps one could look at the Similarities to activitites at Washington)
These papal papers have never been excommunicated
- - - - - - -
Small sects has through the centuries been crushed either by The Vatican or countries ruled by it.
Is the Theosophical Society the next in line?
What happened at Bhagdad?
Was it all real - or was it just heavy propaganda?
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>>> NEW ADVENT on HERESY ---- The Vatican view <<<
"Intolerance and cruelty
The Church's legislation on heresy and heretics is often reproached with cruelty and intolerance. Intolerant it is: in fact its raison d'Ãtre is intolerance of doctrines subversive of the faith. But such intolerance is essential to all that is, or moves, or lives, for tolerance of destructive elements within the organism amounts to suicide. Heretical sects are subject to the same law: they live or die in the measure they apply or neglect it. The charge of cruelty is also easy to meet. All repressive measures cause suffering or inconvenience of some sort: it is their nature. But they are not therefore cruel. The father who chastises his guilty son is just and may be tender-hearted. Cruelty only comes in where the punishment exceeds the requirements of the case. Opponents say: Precisely; the rigours of the Inquisition violated all humane feelings. We answer: they offend the feelings of later ages in which there is less regard for the purity of faith; but they did not antagonize the feelings of their own time, when heresy was looked on as more malignant than treason. In proof of which it suffices to remark that the inquisitors only renounced on the guilt of the accused and then handed him over to the secular power to be dealt with according to the laws framed by emperors and kings. Medieval people found no fault with the system, in fact heretics had been burned by the populace centuries before the Inquisition became a regular institution. And whenever heretics gained the upper hand, they were never slow in applying the same laws: so the Huguenots in France, the Hussites in Bohemia, the Calvinists in Geneva, the Elizabethan statesmen and the Puritans in England. Toleration came in only when faith went out; lenient measures were resorted to only where the power to apply more severe measures was wanting. The embers of the Kulturkampf in Germany still smoulder; the separation and confiscation laws and the ostracism of Catholics in France are the scandal of the day. Christ said: "Do not think that I came to send peace upon earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword" (Matthew 10:34). The history of heresy verifies this prediction and shows, moreover, that the greater number of the victims of the sword is on the side of the faithful adherents of the one Church founded by Christ (see INQUISITION)."
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07256b.htm
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The Papal infallibility is still active. The Inquisition are only in abayance, and can if needed be resurrected. This is the present official view of the Holy See in Rome. (www.Newadvent.com)
Sure we are not forgotten.
:-)
M. Sufilight
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph P. Fulton
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 7:44 PM
Subject: Theos-World Re: TS Adyar's policy or non-policy?
In reply:
Great! I'm glad you're not planning to wait for anything, including
Master, to tell you what to do. It reminds me of the quote from the
ML about "passivity being the utter paralysis of the soul".
Where are the Theosophists where it comes to the debates on AI,
nanotech and genetic modification? As I recall, HPB dedicated an
entire book of the SD to what happened when we repeatedly screwed
around with trying to create beings from the bottom
(materially), "up". Sorry, but I don't see us contributing a thing
to that debate. The silence is deafening!
The TS was founded, in large part, to influence the opinion makers of
their day. This message comes through in the Mahatma Letters as a
recurring theme. When I speak of influencing opinion, I'm talking
specifically in the sense that the ML were trying to address.
Along the same lines, in an effort to find something current, and not
some article from 5, 10, or 20 years ago, a quick search on Google,
and Google News under the terms "Catholic Theosophy 2008",
or "Catholicism Theosophy 2008" reveals any current documentation on
the part of the Roman church (in the top 20 hits) and absolutely no
news stories regarding relations between the TS and the Catholic
church. If we were a threat, of any type, you'd think that the
Catholics would have at least put out some kind of press release. In
HPB's day, yes, the TS was a major threat to the Catholic church, and
stories of their back and forth were quite common in the Theosophist
and mentioned in the Mahatma Letters.
I appreciate your concern that I may not be as familiar with the Key
in the way that you feel I should. Rest assured, I have read the Key
to Theosophy, and most of the core (HPB) literature fairly well.
When I was president of the Akron Branch, after an interview in the
local newspaper, we received copies of the article in the mail with a
death threat from local fundamentalists, but that was in 1989, 20
years ago. We were a group that functioned quite publicly. We did
not hide our candle in fear. So I have no illusion of the type of
emnity that we can scare up when we make ourselves known.
At this point we have no true enemies, simply because we are no
threat to anyone, other than ourselves. It's as the Pogo comic strip
said: "We have met the enemy and they are us".
Joe
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
theosophy@...> wrote:
>
> Dear friends and Joseph
>
> My views are:
>
> Joseph wrote:
> "In regards to the writing you propose, don't wait for any master
to tell you
> to do something."
>
> My answer:
> I am certianly not planning to wait for anything.
>
> Joseph wrote:
> "What do we influence now?"
>
> My answer:
> Disclosure Project, Aliens, UFO's and cropcircles, X-files etc.
etc. are high on the agenda.
> They are the new Mahatmas (Ie. Aliens) and Mahatma Letters (ie.
Cropcircles)
>
> According to H. P. Blavatsky there are many different Devas
(Aliens).
>
> Also United Religious Initiative (URI).
>
>
> Joseph wrote:
> "When is everyone in this movement going to wake up and realize
that no one
> outside really cares what we do? The way we behave makes us
irrelevant.
> Get it?"
>
>
> My answer:
> No, Joseph. Ceraintly not.
> People at this forum or TS branches learn and are taught. E-mails
are capeable of creating a spiritual impact. For instance are Zen
Koans also able to do this.
>
> The theosophical groups are certainly not irrelevant.
> The Catholic Church and Orthodox Islam - EVEN TODAY - consider us
their among their greatest treaths because they claim we were the
major factor behind the New Age Religious groups. Not that we
intended to create most of these groups, but rightly so, because they
are in opposition to theosophy.
>
>
> Our greatest enemies are today the above as well as the groups who
similar to the Spirtists of the Blavatsky days falsely claims to
teach about Adepts similar to or more wise than the theosophical
ones, ie. the new Messiah etc. Some of them even call themselves
theosophical, and teach people to pray like a Christian and heavily
waters down the truth baout the doctrine on Atma or Parabrahm within
the human self, thereby killing out self-reliance and self-confidence.
>
> As long as various Theosophical teacher are not able to keep their
teachings within the doctrine forwarded by H. P. Blavatsky in the
beginner-book -"The Key to Theosophy", they can hardly with honest
conscience call themselves REAL Theosophical teachers.
>
> So Jospeh, if you would - carefully - read or re-read The Key to
Theosophy, I think your views would change. According to HPB progress
is slowly. Patience is a good idea to practice.
>
>
> Here is one option...
>
> H. P. Blavatsky in The Key to Theosophy, chapter 13 , p. 271- 273:
> (http://www.phx-ult-lodge.org/aKEY.htm )
>
>
> "WHY, THEN, IS THERE SO MUCH PREJUDICE AGAINST THE T. S.?
> ENQUIRER. If Theosophy is even half of what you say, why should
there exist such a terrible ill-feeling against it? This is even more
of a problem than anything else.
>
>
>
> THEOSOPHIST. It is; but you must bear in mind how many powerful
adversaries we have aroused ever since the formation of our Society.
As I just said, if the Theosophical movement were one of those
numerous modern crazes, as harmless at the end as they are
evanescent, it would be simply laughed atÃââ as it is now by those
who still do not understand its real purport Ãââ and left severely
alone. But it is nothing of the kind. Intrinsically, Theosophy is the
most serious movement of this age; and one, moreover, which threatens
the very life of most of the time-honoured humbugs, prejudices, and
social evils of the day Ãââ those evils which fatten and make happy
the upper ten and their imitators and sycophants, the wealthy dozens
of the middle classes, while they positively crush and starve out of
existence the millions of the poor. Think of this, and you will
easily understand the reason of such a relentless persecution by
those others who, more observant and perspicacious, do see the true
nature of Theosophy, and therefore dread it.
>
>
>
> ENQUIRER. Do you mean to tell me that it is because a few have
understood what Theosophy leads to, that they try to crush the
movement? But if Theosophy leads only to good, surely you cannot be
prepared to utter such a terrible accusation of perfidious
heartlessness and treachery even against those few?
>
>
>
> THEOSOPHIST. I am so prepared, on the contrary. I do not call the
enemies we have had to battle with during the first nine or ten years
of the Society's existence either powerful or "dangerous"; but only
those who have arisen against us in the last three or four years. And
these neither speak, write nor preach against Theosophy, but work in
silence and behind the backs of the foolish puppets who act as their
visible marionnettes. Yet, if invisible to most of the members of our
Society, they are well known to the true "Founders" and the
protectors of our Society. But they must remain for certain reasons
unnamed at present.
>
>
>
> ENQUIRER. And are they known to many of you, or to yourself alone?
>
>
>
> THEOSOPHIST. I never said I knew them. I may or may not know
themÃââ but I know of them, and this is sufficient; and I defy them
to do their worst. They may achieve great mischief and throw
confusion into our ranks, especially among the faint-hearted, and
those who can judge only by appearances. They will not crush the
Society, do what they may. Apart from these truly dangerous enemies
Ãâ" "dangerous," however, only to those Theosophists who are unworthy
of the name, and whose place is rather outside than within the T.
S.Ãââ the number of our opponents is more than considerable.
>
>
>
> ENQUIRER. Can you name these, at least, if you will not speak of
the others?
>
>
>
> THEOSOPHIST. Of course I can. We have to contend against (1) the
hatred of the Spiritualists, American, English, and French; (2) the
constant opposition of the clergy of all denominations; (3)
especially the relentless hatred and persecution of the missionaries
in India; (4) this led to the famous and infamous attack on our
Theosophical Society by the Society for Psychical Research, an attack
which was stirred up by a regular conspiracy organized by the
missionaries in India. Lastly, we must count the defection of various
prominent (?) members, for reasons I have already explained, all of
whom have contributed their utmost to increase the prejudice against
us. "
>
>
>
> -------
>
>
>
>
>
> So there are no enemies today?
>
>
> What do theosophists publish in Newspapers these days and what not?
>
>
>
>
>
> M. Sufilight
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joseph P. Fulton
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 1:51 AM
> Subject: Theos-World Re: TS Adyar's policy or non-policy?
>
>
> Thanks for replying. I'll address questions #1 & #2 in a separate
reply
>
> In regards to the writing you propose, don't wait for any master
to tell you
> to do something. It'll be quite a while. From what I can tell
from just
> reading the Mahatma Letters, these guys were concerned primarily
with a
> nexus of cultural change. The TS, at the time was to be the
vehicle to help
> guide that change. What do we influence now?
>
> When is everyone in this movement going to wake up and realize
that no one
> outside really cares what we do? The way we behave makes us
irrelevant.
> Get it?
>
> Honestly, to have to "worry" about something like Alice Bailey
(or
> Krishnamurti) is just mind-bogglingly crazy!!! Her group is like
any other
> who believe that they HAVE THE TRUTH, just like any other
dogmatic religion,
> or Leadbeater for that matter. Because we are (by our Objects) an
> investigatory body, we should be taking on Daniel Dennett,
Richard Dawkins
> and Ray Kurzweil.
>
> I have proposed several times that a group of Theosophists come
together to
> form a group whose express purpose is to address the scientific,
cultural
> and philosophical issues of today, by writing papers, books, and
holding
> conferences to address the issues that we face today. Our targets
should be
> the digerati of today, i.e. Ray Kurzweil, Richard Dawkins, Daniel
Dennett,
> etc. This group would behave quite differently than anything in
the
> Theosophical world today. No dogmas, no beliefs, just questions,
and no fear
> in skewering the sacred cows of this culture. The methodology
inherent in
> the Objects is the primary guide.
>
> Anyone interested?
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-
> theosophy@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Joseph and friends
> >
> > My views are:
> >
> > 1) Thanks. Yes. But that does not at all explain why they do,
what they
> do, and who "they" actually are in person. And not why "their"
policy is
> like it is.
> >
> > 2)
> > I was rather reffering to the fact that the Alice A. Bailey
books are not
> allowed within any TS branch as far as I know. Whereas C. W.
Leadbeaters are
> more than welcomed. Weird is it not?
> >
> > And compartive study between them and H. P. Blavatsky's
teachings? Have it
> ever occured?
> > When people start thinkin in terms like: You choose your path,
we soon
> will end up with another version of the Spiritists and a pseudo
Esoteric
> version og the Latter Days Saints or similar. Well, that is, if
you get my
> view.
> >
> > 2 + 3)
> >
> >
> > 4)
> > Joseph wrote:
> > Krishnamuti: "People choose their leaders out of confusion,
therefore
> > the leaders are also confused."
> >
> > My answer:
> > Sure, that will imediately rule all others out except
Kirshnamurti himself
> - as a braging Messiah.
> > Sneaky fellow that Krishnamurti, .....sneaky, very very sneaky.
> >
> > So no one have ever compared J. Krishnamurti with any other TS
teacher?
> > I am amazed.
> >
> >
> > Yes. The Theosophical Movement by Cooper is worth an effort.
> >
> > What is this: "Theosophical materials" (presumably
> > from the Adyar organization) - you are reffering to?
> >
> > Joseph wrote:
> > "Morten, I agree very strongly with your view of the TS as an
> > "investigatory" organization. A major portion of the issues we
deal
> > with now date back to the post-Coulomb period when HPB was in
Europe
> > and the ES was formed. As soon as this direct line to a "higher
> > authority" was established with the Europeans, free-thought,
and the
> > investigatory nature of the TS diminished greatly. It's a funny
> > phenomenon, slightly alluded to in the Mahatma Letters (3rd Ed.
Letter
> > 16 "Devachan" Pg. 24) regarding the existence of a pair of
undisclosed
> > Skandhas. These two are associated, according to the letter,
with
> > "the efficacy of vain rights and ceremonies, in prayers and
> > intercession". Perhaps it is the action of this attribute of
mind
> > which is mostly responsible for the current state of affairs."
> >
> > My answer:
> > Thanks. I found your words very interesting.
> >
> > One aught to ask various TS leaders and leaders from other
theosophical
> branches about this issue. I wonder what they would say, if they
at all
> dared to answer?
> > ----
> >
> > Joseph wrote:
> > "I have one other question. Who are the finest scholars in the
> > movement today? David Riegle, Daniel Caldwell, Paul Johnson, Joy
> > Mills? Where is the output from these individuals, presumably
experts
> > in Theosophical writing? Who are they challenging in the world
of
> > science, religion and philosophy?"
> >
> >
> > My answer:
> > Spot on. That was the major point with this e-mail.
> >
> > The question will be: When and who will do an effort -
together - so that
> the truth about the Wisdoms teachings will be forwarded, so that
the untruth
> might be shown clearly to the interested reader. - Who has or
have the
> capacity to write a major comprehensive in deept volume -
comparing H. P.
> Blavatsky with Annie Besant, C. W. Leadbeater, J. Krishnamurti ,
W. Q. Judge
> - as well as quite important the major player today: Alice A.
Bailey, while
> forwarding the - theosophical message to our present day
audiences - with
> todays, nuclears, DNA-engineeering, cloning, Disclosure Project,
> Alien/UFO/Cropcircle situation, psychology today, brain washing
in the new
> age movements and religion, etc. etc. Such a book could easily be
running
> past 500 pages. A book for instance also drawing from the ancient
> mythologies and words of wise vibration.
> >
> > If this is what Master orders, we will have to write it. I
could imagine,
> that this is what Master would find one of important tasks to do
today.
> > ---
> >
> >
> > We shall know the various authors on their fruits and not only
their
> books.
> > Are there at all any sages on this polluted and scarred Planet?
Who?
> >
> >
> > M. Sufilight
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Joseph P. Fulton
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 11:56 PM
> > Subject: Theos-World Re: TS Adyar's policy or non-policy?
> >
> >
> > Very good question. I have to admit that sometimes I am quite
amazed
> > at the lack of comparative studies. There appear to be a number
of
> > things involved, some are philosophical, and some are quite, how
> > should we say, prosaic? I'll answer the questions in order.
> >
> > 1) Please see the site:
> > http://www.questbooks.net/aboutquest.cfm#staff for contact info
and
> > submission guidelines.
> >
> > 2) Have you ever done programming in a branch or study center?
You
> > find out one thing real quick. You're on your own. The most
common
> > reaction from a programming person doesn't have anything to do
with
> > what "Wheaton" or "Adyar" wants. Getting something, i.e.
anything
> > together is the best many can hope for. The prevailing attitude
in
> > most groups (having heard this enough times as a Federation
Pres.) is
> > if "Wheaton wants to tell us what to do, they can come do it
> themselves".
> >
> > 3) See #2. Headquarters offers study courses to groups, but I've
> > never, ever heard of word coming down from HQ saying that a
group
> > "must" study something. I've even visited groups where I was
kindly
> > told to leave for asking if they read or studied the SD or ML.
> > Running a local group is really a "by the seat of your pants"
type of
> > thing. I have some wonderful horror stories of times where
speakers
> > didn't show or someone in the audience tried to make a virtual
> > whipping post out of the speaker or their topic.
> >
> > 4) Applying a style of logic normally ascribed to Nagarjuna,
this
> > answer will apply to Questions #5, 6, 7, and 8. If a local
group is
> > fortunate enough to have someone with an Eastern philosophical
> > background, chances are this type of debate goes on quite a
bit.
> > However, in this organization, there seems to be much less
emphasis on
> > the tradition of inquiry and open examination. The prevailing
> > attitude that I observe in most groups is that of your typical
> > "believer", not much different than what you would find at a
local
> > Methodist or Congregationalist church. And, to paraphrase
> > Krishnamuti: "People choose their leaders out of confusion,
therefore
> > the leaders are also confused."
> >
> > So the answer to Questions 4 - 8 is "yes, all the above are
allowed".
> > The reality is, and mostly for the reasons given above, is that
it
> > just doesn't happen.
> >
> > 9) I guess it depends on who you call an "Adyar" writer or
teacher.
> > Probably the most well-known piece from the "Adyar" camp
is "There is
> > No Religion Higher Than Truth" by E.L. Gardner
> > (http://hpb.narod.ru/NoReligion.htm). As a member of the British
> > Section, Gardner lays out a comparison between various
teachings of
> > HPB and CW Leadbeater. In regard to the teaching of later
> > "commentators" perhaps the issue is one of not having anything
new to
> > say vs. not saying anything. In the Adyar tradition, virtually
> > everything is an expansion on the writings of CWL. Now that
being
> > said, there are some fine exceptions, such as "The Divine Plan"
by
> > Geoffrey Barborka, and "The Reader's Guide to the Mahatma
Letters" by
> > Virginia Hanson. One other little known source, and perhaps one
of
> > the most wonderfully objective pieces I've ever seen was a
video of
> > the history of the Theosophical Movement, by the late John
Cooper. He
> > did a brilliant exposition on the various traditions within the
> > Theosophical movement without being rude or condescending to any
> > particular viewpoint or organization. This is something (IMHO)
that
> > all of the various organizations within the Theosophical
movement
> > should have in their libraries.
> >
> > I would like to analyze the entire issue of what is taught in
the
> > Theosophical Society from a different viewpoint. The autonomy of
> > local groups is pretty absolute. The only requirement that I am
aware
> > of for groups is that they use "Theosophical materials"
(presumably
> > from the Adyar organization) in "Theosophy" classes.
> >
> > Morten, I agree very strongly with your view of the TS as an
> > "investigatory" organization. A major portion of the issues we
deal
> > with now date back to the post-Coulomb period when HPB was in
Europe
> > and the ES was formed. As soon as this direct line to a "higher
> > authority" was established with the Europeans, free-thought,
and the
> > investigatory nature of the TS diminished greatly. It's a funny
> > phenomenon, slightly alluded to in the Mahatma Letters (3rd Ed.
Letter
> > 16 "Devachan" Pg. 24) regarding the existence of a pair of
undisclosed
> > Skandhas. These two are associated, according to the letter,
with
> > "the efficacy of vain rights and ceremonies, in prayers and
> > intercession". Perhaps it is the action of this attribute of
mind
> > which is mostly responsible for the current state of affairs.
> >
> > I have one other question. Who are the finest scholars in the
> > movement today? David Riegle, Daniel Caldwell, Paul Johnson, Joy
> > Mills? Where is the output from these individuals, presumably
experts
> > in Theosophical writing? Who are they challenging in the world
of
> > science, religion and philosophy?
> >
> > Answer that question, and you'll have the answer to everything
you
> > asked above. The sad truth is that the Theosophical movement as
a
> > whole is quite a marginal movement, of little importance to
anyone
> > today aside from its own participants. Nobody really cares
about the
> > arguments made on the forums or in the magazines because we
just talk
> > to ourselves. In a sense, I can get that by going downtown and
> > listening to the winos and drug addicts talk to the voices in
their
> > head. I guess, based on that, there are a number of hobbies one
could
> > engage in that are more likely to be of benefit to society or
cause
> > more damage.
> >
> > Perhaps if we stopped pretending to have all of the answers and
got
> > back to asking questions, such mundane little issues as
membership,
> > who is President, and what do we teach may become meaningful
again.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen"
> > <global-theosophy@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear friends
> > >
> > > My views are:
> > >
> > > A new year is beginning in peoples minds.
> > >
> > > It is now more than 133 years since the founding of the
moderne
> > visdom teachings - The Theosophical Society year 1875.
> > >
> > > Status at Conventions occurs.
> > > It could be well for members at TS Adyar to consider the
following
> > questions and words and their value.
> > >
> > >
> > > H.P. Blavatsky said:
> > > "...Contrast alone can enable us to appreciate things at
their right
> > value; and unless a judge compares notes and hears
> > > both sides he can hardly come to a correct decision." H.P.
> > Blavatsky. The Theosophist, July, 1881, p. 218.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *** THE QUESTIONS to CONSIDER ***
> > >
> > > I would appreciate if anyone would care to answer the
following
> > questions, so that we may be able to know about TS Adyar more
fully...
> > >
> > > 1.
> > > Who decides what kind of books and what books at all are
being sold
> > at Quest Books?
> > > Who decides, what Bookshop and what books by what authors -
TS Adyar
> > promotes?
> > > What is the present day policy and why?
> > >
> > >
> > > 2.
> > > Who decides what kind of lectures are emphasised within TS
branches?
> > > What is the present day policy and why?
> > >
> > > 3.
> > > Who decides what books one are allowed to lecture on?
> > > Are lectures on comparative study of various authors allowed
freely?
> > > What is the present day policy and why?
> > >
> > >
> > > 4.
> > > Are lectures on commparative studies beteween H. P. Blavatsky
vs. C.
> > W. Leadbeater allowed?
> > >
> > > 5.
> > > Are lectures on commparative studies beteween H. P. Blavatsky
vs.
> > Annie Besant allowed?
> > >
> > > 6.
> > > Are lectures on commparative studies beteween H. P. Blavatsky
vs.
> > Alice A. Bialey / Lucis Trust allowed?
> > >
> > > 7.
> > > Are lectures on commparative studies beteween H. P. Blavatsky
vs.
> > Radha Burnier allowed?
> > >
> > > 8.
> > > Are lectures on commparative studies beteween H. P. Blavatsky
vs. J.
> > Krishnamurti allowed?
> > >
> > > 9.
> > > Have any TS Adyar Teacher ever done an effort in the
direction of
> > comparative study - large or small - between H. P. Blavatsky
and all
> > of the aboves techings? If not, why not?
> > >
> > >
> > > 10.
> > > In the old H. P. Blavatsky days - no false claims were
permitted to
> > go unchallanged for a longer time by H. P. Blavatsky herself. A
clear
> > stance on various new religious groups was - ALWAYS - given in
the
> > Theosophist and Lucifer etc. when the situation demanded it. -
Is this
> > what is happening today?
> > >
> > > Are false claims being allowed to flourish within TS today?
> > >
> > >
> > > - - -
> > >
> > > If time permit me, I will in a study, and if no others will,
seek to
> > compare
> > > H. P. Blavatsky with all the above - C. W. Leadbeater. Annie
Besant,
> > J. Krishnamurti, Radha Burnier, Alice A. Bailey. And I will
eventually
> > publish my study before this my phycial body reach its death.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > M. Sufilight
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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