Theos-Talk Archives (November 2008 Message tt00521)

Future: we can create by ourselves.If we plant 3th world war, we make 
it.We need to make strong economy in the countries ,which produces 
and keep on working together and create unity all over the world, for 
we have one world.

Chrstina






--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Erica Letzerich <eletzerich@...> 
wrote:
>
> Dear friends,
> 
> I am not sure what was the meaning of the e-mail Richard sent 
mentioning the date of the invasion of Tibet. We all know 
historically when Tibet was invaded and the indifference from nations 
all over the world since that time. Nothing was done to interfere 
against this  barbarian Chinese act. And still until today nothing is 
done. I must say that so far Sarkozy is one of the leaders whot has a 
profound sympathy for the Tibetan cause, but China is always creating 
problems with him because of his position. 
> 
> Yesterday a theosophist, who is also a strategy manager, delivered 
a very interesting lecture in the T.S. in Greece. It was a speech 
which basically tried to question what we theosophists can do in 
practical ways for a better world. He presented a international view 
on several matters, and pointed out the eminent danger of a third 
world war in the next 40 years. This according with some political 
studies and analyses on his field.
> 
> Between other things one of the point of major tension, is between 
China and India. See experts analyses concluded that this tension 
will increase and get worst. What really shocks me most is to know 
that the matter related to Tibet will get worst proportions as China 
will increase its claims for Arunachal Pradesh. . This claim wont be 
left behind, wont be forgotten by China and according to political 
experts is most likely to lead to a war. Of course we are not talking 
about a today war but a future war. So politic leaders knows that. 
This is abc info (basic, obvious). Why they dont interfere with Tibet 
and try to find ways for a better solution? If the leaders keep on 
with their indifference for the Tibetan cause, they will not only be 
agreeing with the genocide and elimination of an entire culture, but 
also endangering India and endorsing a  future war.
> 
> 
> Erica
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: Pedro Oliveira <prmoliveira@...>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 6:55:08 AM
> Subject: Theos-World Re: Some thoughts on the situation of Tibet
> 
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, Erica Letzerich 
<eletzerich@ ...> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Dear friends,
> > 
> > Its very sad the position Dalai Lama was placed by China and the 
> horrible lies and accusations perpetuated by the chinese against 
the 
> Dalai Lama. China also keeps on with their claims about the Indian 
> territory Arunachal Pradesh. The Chinese are pressing the Indian 
> government to not recognize any valid government of Tibet in Exile. 
> As the situation gets worst, China reinforces the tension with the 
> claim that states of Arunachal Pradesh used to belong to Tibet and 
as 
> so belong to China.
> > 
> > We know the Chinese government has a strong campaign against 
> anything related to Tibetan Buddhism and to Dalai Lama. Chineses 
> working for the Chinese government are to be found everywhere in 
the 
> internet, and are the very first to make such kind of attacks. 
China 
> is becoming more agressive with its politics and if other nations 
do 
> not raise their voice against it, things promisses to get worst. 
> Unfortunatly on 15 of November the British Chief Minister 
recognized 
> the Chinese sovereignty over Tibet. 
> > 
> > Recently the Dalai Lama made the following statements:
> > 
> > "My trust in the Chinese
> > government has become thinner, thinner, thinner," 
> > "Suppression
> > is increasing and I cannot pretend that everything is OK."
> > "I
> > have to accept failure. Meantime among Tibetans in recent years, 
our
> > approach failed to bring positive change inside Tibet, so 
criticism 
> has
> > also increased."
> > 
> > Recently I've joined a group in google, dedicated to the "Buddha" 
> boy, more out
> > of curiosity to follow what is happening and what will be the 
final
> > result of it. Their web-site was hacked yesterday, and a person 
made
> > the following post: "Thank you to have allowed me to take your 
land 
> and
> > rape your women." I've also read uncountable articles in 
different 
> blogs of anonymous persons defending China and making horrible 
> accusations against the Dalai Lama and Tibet. The Chinese 
aggressive 
> approach is not only centered on Tibet but  underground they also 
> work against Tibetan Buddhism. I am afraid that pretty soon the 
> Chinese claims over Indian Territories will also increase. 
> > 
> > Some leaders must assume a very strong position against China 
> claims and policies. Otherwise we shall soon witness much worst 
> things happening.
> 
> Dear Erica,
> 
> The genocide of Tibetan people perpetrated by Communist China for 
> more than 50 years is a very clear evidence that for the Western 
> liberal democracies, led by the EU and the US, "human rights" is a 
> nothing but a useful political slogan which serves to deflect 
> attention from the fundamental fact that the 1.3 billion strong 
> Chinese market is inded the central interest of the "freedom-
loving" 
> nations. 
> 
> Call me a skeptic if you want, but I am convinced that not even 
> Barack Obama would have the guts (or the interest) to take on China 
> on the issue of Tibet. 
> 
> Western liberal democracies continue to have blood on their hands. 
> Every time they renew their "Most favoured nation status" with 
China 
> they do so on the background of torture, killing and raping of many 
> Tibetan Buddhist nuns, as well as of monks and activists. They have 
> condoned and continue to condone one of the most brutal political 
> regimes in modern history. And they know it.
> 
> When the Dalai Lama officially announced that he had given up on 
> negotiating with China he was just being honest. You can't 
negotiate 
> with people that do not take you seriously.
> 
> The Chinese government may soon have a surprise in their hands when 
> the more radical wings of the Tibetan movement call for full 
> independence from China, instead of autonomy, and takes the 
struggle 
> to a new political level, in which nothing is excluded.
> 
> So far for Tibet and the Tibetans Kali Yuga has won. So far.
> 
> Pedro 
> 
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