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Nov 23, 2008 04:04 AM
by christinaleestemaker
Oeps need to read then you were born AFTER --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@...> wrote: > > Better in the same time, then after you were born;) > > > > > > -- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Martin <Mvandertak@> wrote: > > > > I was born in 1959 May 28th, and at that time the Russians sent the > first monkey into space...ain't that funny.... > > > > --- On Sun, 11/23/08, christinaleestemaker > <christinaleestemaker@> wrote: > > From: christinaleestemaker <christinaleestemaker@> > > Subject: Theos-World Re: Mahatma letter 59 > > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 11:03 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Martin, how Cosmic or comic it can be. > > > > Do you understand all in the letter 59. > > > > I read it many times and figured out the satvika into > > > > the circle, as it is the triangle (triade) makes through the > circle > > > > its trianglepoints the perfect square. > > > > And the psychological test they use in Germany for people wanted to > > > > enjoy university they do the test with circles,triangles and > squares > > > > to see a persons phsychological constitution. > > > > > > > > By the way who is de seeres or the lady they mentioned in this > > > > letter, who understand all without the book or knowledge they gave? > > > > I think HPB, but am not sure.Do you know that? > > > > Christina > > > > > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, Martin <Mvandertak@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I once did some course with the A>A>B> group...I asked what is > > > > Ishvara (KRSHN or Christ): > > > > > then I got an answer it is the comic universal Love...(without > the > > > > 's '). The fool after the great Arcana... > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 11/22/08, christinaleestemake r > > > > <christinaleestemak er@> wrote: > > > > > From: christinaleestemake r <christinaleestemak er@> > > > > > Subject: Theos-World Re: Mahatma letter 15 page 88, 89. > > > > > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com > > > > > Date: Saturday, November 22, 2008, 2:54 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A little FUN if I see I touched letter S after A in > > > > Atma Buddhi, > > > > > > > > > > a buddhi with astma, real lauchable, sorry for that, for the well > > > > > > > > > > readers under us. > > > > > > > > > > Christina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "christinaleestemak er" > > > > > > > > > > <christinaleestemak er@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well yes, I have the book in two languages and as I read the > > > > Dutch > > > > > > > > > > > more and more I have the conclusion that masters write well, > > > > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > > > they wrote the so called parabrahm in its version with Maya > gives > > > > > > > > > > > Iswar,the creative principle - a power commonly called God > which > > > > > > > > > > > disappears and dies with the rest when pralaya comes. > > > > > > > > > > > And after they call it Adi Buddhi with its periodically > > > > manifesting > > > > > > > > > > > Divinity.and that periodically is AStmaBuddhi, so the book is > > > > right. > > > > > > > > > > > After reading in Dutch it shows me the AdiBuddhi WITH. > > > > > > > > > > > It is not easy to read well I see.So there is no press mistake > in > > > > > > > > > > > this way. > > > > > > > > > > > Here comes the pages from on line edition: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.theosoci ety.org/pasadena /mahatma/ ml-con.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Letter No. 15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Transcribed from a copy in Mr. Sinnett's handwriting. > K.H.'s > > > > > > > > > > > repies are in bold type. -- ED.] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From K.H. to A.O.H. Received July 10th, 1882. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (1) Does every mineral form, vegetable, plant, animal, always > > > > > > > > > > contain > > > > > > > > > > > within it that entity which involves the potentiality of > > > > > > > > > > development > > > > > > > > > > > into a planetary spirit? At this present day in this present > > > > earth > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > there such an essence or spirit or soul -- the name is > immaterial > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > every mineral, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (1) Invariably; only rather call it the germ of a future > entity, > > > > > > > > > > > which it has been for ages. Take the human foetus. From the > > > > moment > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > its first planting until it completes its seventh month of > > > > > > > > > > gestation > > > > > > > > > > > it repeats in miniature the mineral, vegetable, and animal > cycles > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > passed through in its previous encasements, and only during the > > > > > > > > > > last > > > > > > > > > > > two, develops its future human entity. It is completed but > > > > towards > > > > > > > > > > > the child's seventh year. Yet it existed without any increase > or > > > > > > > > > > > decrease aeons on aeons before it worked its way onward, > through > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > in the womb of mother nature as it works now in its earthly > > > > > > > > > > mother's > > > > > > > > > > > bosom. Truly said a learned philosopher who trusts more to his > > > > > > > > > > > intuitions than the dicta of modern science. "The stages of > man's > > > > > > > > > > > intra-uterine existence embody a condensed record of some of > the > > > > > > > > > > > missing pages in Earth's history." Thus you must look back at > the > > > > > > > > > > > animal, vegetable and mineral entities. You must take each > entity > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > its starting point in the manvantaric course as the primordial > > > > > > > > > > cosmic > > > > > > > > > > > atom already differentiated by the first flutter of the > > > > manvantaric > > > > > > > > > > > life breath. For the potentiality which develops finally in a > > > > > > > > > > > perfected planetary spirit lurks in, is in fact that primordial > > > > > > > > > > > cosmic atom. Drawn by its "chemical affinity" (?) to coalesce > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > other like atoms the aggregate sum of such united atoms will in > > > > > > > > > > time > > > > > > > > > > > become a man-bearing globe after the stages of the cloud, the > > > > > > > > > > spiral > > > > > > > > > > > and sphere of fire-mist and of the condensation, consolidation, > > > > > > > > > > > shrinkage and cooling of the planet have been successively > passed > > > > > > > > > > > through. But mind, not every globe becomes a "man bearer." I > > > > simply > > > > > > > > > > > state the fact without dwelling further upon it in this > > > > connection. > > > > > > > > > > > The great difficulty in grasping the idea in the above process > > > > lies > > > > > > > > > > > in the liability to form more or less incomplete mental > > > > conceptions > > > > > > > > > > > of the working of the oneelement, of its inevitable presence in > > > > > > > > > > every > > > > > > > > > > > imponderable atom, and its subsequent ceaseless and almost > > > > > > > > > > > illimitable multiplication of new centres of activity without > > > > > > > > > > > affecting in the least its own original quantity. Let us take > > > > such > > > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > > > aggregation of atoms destined to form our globe and then > follow, > > > > > > > > > > > throwing a cursory look at the whole, the special work of such > > > > > > > > > > atoms. > > > > > > > > > > > We will call the primordial atom A. This being not a > > > > circumscribed > > > > > > > > > > > centre of activity but the initial point of a manwantaric whirl > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > evolution, gives birth to new centres which we may term B, C, > D, > > > > > > > > > > > etc., incomputably. Each of these capital points gives birth to > > > > > > > > > > minor > > > > > > > > > > > centres, a, b, c, etc. And the latter in the course of > evolution > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > involution in time develops into A's, B's, C's, etc., and so > form > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > roots or are the developing causes of new genera, species, > > > > classes, > > > > > > > > > > > etc., ad infinitum. Now neither the primordial A and its > > > > companion > > > > > > > > > > > atoms, nor their derived a's, b's, c's, have lost one tittle of > > > > > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > > > original force or life-essence by the evolution of their > > > > > > > > > > derivatives. > > > > > > > > > > > The force there, is not transformed into something else as I > have > > > > > > > > > > > already shown in my letter, but with each development of a new > > > > > > > > > > centre > > > > > > > > > > > of activity from withinitself multiplies ad infinitum without > > > > ever > > > > > > > > > > > losing a particle of its nature in quantity or quality. Yet > > > > > > > > > > acquiring > > > > > > > > > > > as it progresses something plus in its differentiation. This > > > > > > > > > > "force" > > > > > > > > > > > so-called, shows itself truly indestructible but does not > > > > correlate > > > > > > > > > > > and is not convertible in the sense accepted by the Fellows of > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > R.S., but rather may be said to grow and expand into "something > > > > > > > > > > else" > > > > > > > > > > > while neither its own potentiality nor being are in the least > > > > > > > > > > > affected by the transformation. > > > > > > > > > > > ***[ is page 88] in the book > > > > > > > > > > > Nor can it well be called force since the latter is but the > > > > > > > > > > > attribute of Yin Sin (Yin Sin or the one "Form of existence" > also > > > > > > > > > > Adi- > > > > > > > > > > > Buddhi or Dharmakaya the mystic, universally diffused essence) > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > manifesting in the phenomenal world of senses namely only your > > > > old > > > > > > > > > > > acquaintance Fohat. See in this connexion Subba Row's article > > > > > > > > > > "Aryan > > > > > > > > > > > Arhat Esoteric Doctrines" on the seven-fold principles in man; > > > > his > > > > > > > > > > > review of your Fragments, pp. 94 and 95. The initiated Brahmin > > > > > > > > > > calls > > > > > > > > > > > it (Yin Sin and Fohat) Brahman and Sakti when manifesting as > that > > > > > > > > > > > force. We will perhaps be nearer correct to call it infinite > life > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > the source of all life visible and invisible, an essence > > > > > > > > > > > inexhaustible ever present, in short Swabhavat. (S. in its > > > > > > > > > > universal > > > > > > > > > > > application, Fohat when manifesting throughout our phenomenal > > > > world > > > > > > > > > > > or rather the visible universe hence in its limitations) . It > is > > > > > > > > > > > pravritti when active, nirvritti when passive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ***[This is page 89 the part I thought AdiBuddhi was wrong, but > > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > say Adi Buddhi with its periodically and that peridically is > > > > > > > > > > > AtmaBuddhi] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Call it the Sakti of Parabrahma, if you like, and say with the > > > > > > > > > > > Adwaitees (Subba Row is one) that Parabrahm plus Maya becomes > > > > Iswar > > > > > > > > > > > the creative principle -- a power commonly called God which > > > > > > > > > > > disappears and dies with the rest when pralaya comes. Or you > may > > > > > > > > > > hold > > > > > > > > > > > with the northern Buddhist philosophers and call it Adi- Buddhi > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > all-pervading supreme and absolute intelligence with its > > > > > > > > > > periodically > > > > > > > > > > > manifesting Divinity -- "Avalokiteshvara" (a manwantaric > > > > > > > > > > intelligent > > > > > > > > > > > nature crowned with humanity) -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the mystic name given by us to the hosts of the Dyan Chohans > > > > > > > > > > (N.B., > > > > > > > > > > > the solar Dyan Chohans or the host of only our solar system) > > > > taken > > > > > > > > > > > collectively, which host represents the mother source, the > > > > > > > > > > aggregate > > > > > > > > > > > amount of all the intelligences that were are or ever will be > > > > > > > > > > whether > > > > > > > > > > > on our string of man-bearing planets or on any part or portion > of > > > > > > > > > > our > > > > > > > > > > > solar system. And this will bring you by analogy to see that in > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > > turn Adi-Buddhi (as its very name translated literally implies) > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > the aggregate intelligence of the universal intelligences > > > > including > > > > > > > > > > > that of the Dyan Chohans even of the highest order. That is all > I > > > > > > > > > > > dare now to tell you on this special subject, as I fear I have > > > > > > > > > > > already transcended the limit. Therefore whenever I speak of > > > > > > > > > > humanity > > > > > > > > > > > without specifying it you must understand that I mean not > > > > humanity > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > our fourth round as we see it on this speck of mud in space but > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > whole host already evoluted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes as described in my letter -- there is but one element and > it > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > impossible to comprehend our system before a correct conception > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > is firmly fixed in one's mind. You must therefore pardon me if > I > > > > > > > > > > > dwell on the subject longer than really seems necessary. But > > > > unless > > > > > > > > > > > this great primary fact is firmly grasped the rest will appear > > > > > > > > > > > unintelligible. This element then is the -- to speak > > > > metaphysically > > > > > > > > > > > -- one sub-stratum or permanent cause of all manifestations in > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > phenomenal universe. The ancients speak of the five cognizable > > > > > > > > > > > elements of ether, air, water, fire, earth, and of the one > > > > > > > > > > > incognizable element (to the uninitiates) the 6th principle of > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > universe -- call it Purush Sakti, while to speak of the seventh > > > > > > > > > > > outside the sanctuary was punishable with death. But these five > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > but the differentiated aspects of the one. As man is a seven- > fold > > > > > > > > > > > being so is the universe -- the septenary microcosm being to > the > > > > > > > > > > > septenary macrocosm but as the drop of rainwater is to the > cloud > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > whence it dropped and whither in the course of time it will > > > > return. > > > > > > > > > > > In that one are embraced or included so many tendencies for the > > > > > > > > > > > evolution of air, water, fire, etc. (from the purely abstract > > > > down > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > their concrete condition) and when those latter are called > > > > elements > > > > > > > > > > > it is to indicate their productive potentialities for > numberless > > > > > > > > > > form > > > > > > > > > > > changes or evolution of being. Let us represent the unknown > > > > > > > > > > quantity > > > > > > > > > > > as X; that quantity is the one eternal immutable principle -- > and > > > > > > > > > > A, > > > > > > > > > > > B, C, D, E, five of the six minor principles or components of > the > > > > > > > > > > > same; viz., the principles of earth, water, air, fire and ether > > > > > > > > > > > (akasa) following the order of their spirituality and beginning > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > the lowest. There is a sixth principle answering to the sixth > > > > > > > > > > > principle Buddhi, in man (to avoid confusion remember that in > > > > > > > > > > viewing > > > > > > > > > > > the question from the side of the descending scale the abstract > > > > All > > > > > > > > > > > or eternal principle would be numerically designated as the > > > > first, > > > > > > > > > > > and the phenomenal universe as the seventh, and whether > belonging > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > man or to the universe -- viewed from the other side the > > > > numerical > > > > > > > > > > > order would be exactly reversed) but we are not permitted to > name > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > except among the initiates. I may however hint that it is > > > > connected > > > > > > > > > > > with the process of the highest intellection. Let us call it N. > > > > And > > > > > > > > > > > besides these, there is under all the activities of the > > > > phenomenal > > > > > > > > > > > universe an energizing impulse from X, call this Y. > Algebraically > > > > > > > > > > > stated, our equation would therefore read A+B+C+D+E+N+ Y=X. > Each > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > these six letters represents, so to speak, the spirit or > > > > > > > > > > abstraction > > > > > > > > > > > of what you call elements (your meagre English gives me no > other > > > > > > > > > > > word). This spirit controls the entire line of evolution, > around > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > whole manwantaric cycle in its own department. The informing, > > > > > > > > > > > vivifying, impelling, evolving cause,behind the countless > > > > > > > > > > phenomenal > > > > > > > > > > > manifestations in that department of Nature. Let us work out > the > > > > > > > > > > idea > > > > > > > > > > > with a single example. Take fire. D -- the primal igneous > > > > principle > > > > > > > > > > > resident in X -- is the ultimate cause of every phenomenal > > > > > > > > > > > manifestation of fire on all the globes of the chain. The > > > > proximate > > > > > > > > > > > causes are the evoluted secondary igneous agencies which > > > > severally > > > > > > > > > > > control the sevendescents of fire on each planet. (Every > element > > > > > > > > > > > having its seven principles and every principle its seven sub- > > > > > > > > > > > principles and these secondary agencies before doing so, have > in > > > > > > > > > > turn > > > > > > > > > > > become primary causes.) D is a septenary compound of which the > > > > > > > > > > > highest fraction is pure spirit. As we see it on our globe it > is > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > its coarsest, most material condition, as gross in its way as > is > > > > > > > > > > man > > > > > > > > > > > in his physical encasement. In the next preceding globe to ours > > > > > > > > > > fire > > > > > > > > > > > was less gross than here: on the one before that less still. > And > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > the body of flame was more and more pure and spiritual less and > > > > > > > > > > less > > > > > > > > > > > gross and material on each antecedent planet. On the first of > all > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > the manwantaric chain, it appeared as an almost pure objective > > > > > > > > > > > shining -- the Maha Buddhi, sixth principle of the eternal > light. > > > > > > > > > > Our > > > > > > > > > > > globe being at the bottom of the arc where matter exhibits > itself > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > its grossest form along with spirit -- when the fire element > > > > > > > > > > > manifests itself on the globe next succeeding ours in the > > > > ascending > > > > > > > > > > > arc it will be less dense than as we see it. Its spiritual > > > > quality > > > > > > > > > > > will be identical with that which fire had on the globe > preceding > > > > > > > > > > > ours in the descending scale; the second globe of the ascending > > > > > > > > > > scale > > > > > > > > > > > will correspond in quality with that of the second anterior > globe > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > ours in the descending scale, etc. On each globe of the chain > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > > are seven manifestations of fire of which the first in order > will > > > > > > > > > > > compare as to spiritual quality with the last manifestation on > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > next preceding planet: the process being reversed, as you will > > > > > > > > > > infer, > > > > > > > > > > > with the opposite arc. The myriad specific manifestations of > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > > six universal elements are in their turn but the offshoots, > > > > > > > > > > branches > > > > > > > > > > > or branchlets of the one single primordial "Tree of Life." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take Darwin's genealogical tree of life of the human race and > > > > > > > > > > others > > > > > > > > > > > and bearing ever in mind the wise old adage, "As below so > above" > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > that is the universal system of correspondences -- try to > > > > > > > > > > understand > > > > > > > > > > > by analogy. Thus will you see that in this day on this present > > > > > > > > > > earth > > > > > > > > > > > in every mineral, etc., there is such a spirit. I will say > more. > > > > > > > > > > > Every grain of sand, every boulder or crag of granite, is that > > > > > > > > > > spirit > > > > > > > > > > > crystallized or petrified. You hesitate. Take a primer of > geology > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > see what science affirms there about the formation and growth > of > > > > > > > > > > > minerals. What is the origin of all the rocks, whether > > > > sedimentary > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > igneous. Take a piece of granite or sandstone and you find one > > > > > > > > > > > composed of crystals, the other of grains of various stones > > > > > > > > > > (organic > > > > > > > > > > > rocks or stones formed out of the remains of once living plants > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > animals, will not serve our present purpose: they are the > relics > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > subsequent evolutions while we are concerned but with the > > > > > > > > > > primordial > > > > > > > > > > > ones). Now sedimentary and igneous rocks are composed, the > former > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > sand gravel and mud, the latter of lava. We have then but to > > > > trace > > > > > > > > > > > the origin of the two. What do we find? We find that one was > > > > > > > > > > > compounded of three elements or more accurately three several > > > > > > > > > > > manifestations of the one element, -- earth, water and fire, > and > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > the other was similarly compounded (though under different > > > > physical > > > > > > > > > > > conditions) out of cosmic matter -- the imaginary materia prima > > > > > > > > > > > itself one of the manifestations (6th principle) of the one > > > > > > > > > > element. > > > > > > > > > > > How then can we doubt that a mineral contains in it a spark of > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > One as everything else in this objective nature does? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (2) When the pralaya commences what becomes of the Spirit that > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > not worked its way up to man? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (2) . . . The period necessary for the completion of the seven > > > > > > > > > > local > > > > > > > > > > > or earthly -- or shall we call it -- globe-rings (not to speak > of > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > seven Rounds in the minor manwantaras followed by their seven > > > > minor > > > > > > > > > > > pralayas) -- the completion of the so-called mineral cycle is > > > > > > > > > > > immeasurably longer than that of any other kingdom. As you may > > > > > > > > > > infer > > > > > > > > > > > by analogy every globe before it reaches its adult period, has > to > > > > > > > > > > > pass through a formation period -- also septenary. Law in > Nature > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > uniform and the conception, formation, birth, progress and > > > > > > > > > > > development of the child differs from those of the globe only > in > > > > > > > > > > > magnitude. The globe has two periods of teething and of > > > > capillature > > > > > > > > > > > -- its first rocks which it also sheds to make room for new -- > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > its ferns and mosses before it gets forest. As the atoms in the > > > > > > > > > > body > > > > > > > > > > > change [every] seven years so does the globe renew its strata > > > > every > > > > > > > > > > > seven cycles. A section of a part of Cape Breton coalfields > shows > > > > > > > > > > > seven ancient soils with remains of as many forests, and could > > > > one > > > > > > > > > > > dig as deep once more seven other sections would be found > > > > > > > > > > > following. . . . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are three kinds of pralayas and manwantara: -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. The universal or Maha pralaya and manwantara. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. The solar pralaya and manwantara. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. The minor pralaya and manwantara. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When the pralaya No. 1 is finished the universal manwantara > > > > begins. > > > > > > > > > > > Then the whole universe must be re-evoluted de novo. When the > > > > > > > > > > pralaya > > > > > > > > > > > of a solar system comes it affects that solar system only. A > > > > solar > > > > > > > > > > > pralaya = 7 minor pralayas. The minor pralayas of No. 3 concern > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > our little string of globes, whether man-bearing or not. To > such > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > string our Earth belongs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Besides this within a minor pralaya there is a condition of > > > > > > > > > > planetary > > > > > > > > > > > rest or as the astronomers say "death," like that of our > present > > > > > > > > > > moon > > > > > > > > > > > -- in which the rocky body of the planet survives but the life > > > > > > > > > > > impulse has passed out. For example. Let us imagine that our > > > > earth > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > one of a group of seven planets or man-bearing worlds more or > > > > less > > > > > > > > > > > eliptically arranged. Our earth being at the exact lower > central > > > > > > > > > > > point of the orbit of evolution, viz., half way round -- we > will > > > > > > > > > > call > > > > > > > > > > > the first globe A, the last Z. After each solar pralaya there > is > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > complete destruction of our system and after each solar p. > begins > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > absolute objective reformation of our system and each time > > > > > > > > > > everything > > > > > > > > > > > is more perfect than before. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the life impulse reaches "A" or rather that which is > destined > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > become "A" and which so far is but cosmic dust. A centre is > > > > formed > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > the nebulous matter of the condensation of the solar dust > > > > > > > > > > > disseminated through space and a series of three evolutions > > > > > > > > > > invisible > > > > > > > > > > > to the eye of flesh occur in succession, viz., three kingdoms > of > > > > > > > > > > > elementals or nature forces are evoluted: in other words the > > > > animal > > > > > > > > > > > soul of the future globe is formed; or as a Kabalist will > express > > > > > > > > > > it, > > > > > > > > > > > the gnomes, the salamanders, and the undines are created. The > > > > > > > > > > > correspondence between a mother-globe and her child-man may be > > > > thus > > > > > > > > > > > worked out. Both have their seven principles. In the Globe, the > > > > > > > > > > > elementals (of which there are in all seven species) form (a) a > > > > > > > > > > gross > > > > > > > > > > > body, (b) her fluidic double (linga sariram), (c) her life > > > > > > > > > > principle > > > > > > > > > > > (jiva); (d) her fourth principle kama rupa is formed by her > > > > > > > > > > creative > > > > > > > > > > > impulse working from centre to circumference; (e) her fifth > > > > > > > > > > principle > > > > > > > > > > > (animal soul or Manas, physical intelligence) is embodied in > the > > > > > > > > > > > vegetable (in germ) and animal kingdoms; (f) her sixth > principle > > > > > > > > > > (or > > > > > > > > > > > spiritual soul, Buddhi) is man (g) and her seventh principle > > > > (atma) > > > > > > > > > > > is in a film of spiritualized akasa that surrounds her. The > three > > > > > > > > > > > evolutions completed: palpable globe begins to form. The > mineral > > > > > > > > > > > kingdom fourth in the whole series, but first in this stage > leads > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > way. Its deposits are at first vaporous soft and plastic, only > > > > > > > > > > > becoming hard and concrete in the seventh ring. When this ring > is > > > > > > > > > > > completed it projects its essence to globe B -- which is > already > > > > > > > > > > > passing through the preliminary stages of formation and mineral > > > > > > > > > > > evolution begins on that globe. At this juncture the evolution > of > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > vegetable kingdom commences on globe A. When the latter has > made > > > > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > > seventh ring its essence passes on to globe B. At that time the > > > > > > > > > > > mineral essence moves to globe C and the germs of the animal > > > > > > > > > > kingdom > > > > > > > > > > > enter A. When the animal has seven rings there, its life > > > > principle > > > > > > > > > > > goes to globe B, and the essences of vegetable and mineral move > > > > on. > > > > > > > > > > > Then comes man on A, an ethereal foreshadowing of the compact > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > he is destined to become on our earth. Evolving seven parent > > > > races > > > > > > > > > > > with many offshoots of sub-races, he, like the preceding > kingdoms > > > > > > > > > > > completes his seven rings and is then transferred successively > to > > > > > > > > > > > each of the globes onward to Z. From the first man has all the > > > > > > > > > > seven > > > > > > > > > > > principles included in him in germ but none are developed. If > we > > > > > > > > > > > compare him to a baby we will be right; no one has ever, in the > > > > > > > > > > > thousands of ghost stories current, seen the ghost of an > infant, > > > > > > > > > > > though the imagination of a loving mother may have suggested to > > > > her > > > > > > > > > > > the picture of her lost babe in dreams. And this is very > > > > > > > > > > suggestive. > > > > > > > > > > > In each of the rounds he makes one of the principles develop > > > > fully. > > > > > > > > > > > In the first round his consciousness on our earth is dull and > but > > > > > > > > > > > feeble and shadowy, something like that of an infant. When he > > > > > > > > > > reaches > > > > > > > > > > > our earth in the second round he has become responsible in a > > > > > > > > > > degree, > > > > > > > > > > > in the third he becomes so entirely. At every stage and every > > > > round > > > > > > > > > > > his development keeps pace, with the globe on which he is. The > > > > > > > > > > > descending arc from A to our earth is called the shadowy, the > > > > > > > > > > > ascending to Z the "luminous" . . . We men of the fourth round > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > already reaching the latter half of the fifth race of our > fourth > > > > > > > > > > > round humanity, while the men (the few earlier comers) of the > > > > fifth > > > > > > > > > > > round, though only in their first race (or rather class), are > yet > > > > > > > > > > > immeasurably higher than we are -- spiritually if not > > > > > > > > > > intellectually; > > > > > > > > > > > since with the completion or full development of this fifth > > > > > > > > > > principle > > > > > > > > > > > (intellectual soul) they have come nearer than we have, are > > > > closer > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > contact with their sixth principle Buddhi. Of course many are > the > > > > > > > > > > > differentiated individuals even in the fourth r. as germs of > > > > > > > > > > > principles are not equally developed in all, but such is the > rule. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . . . Man comes on globe "A" after the other kingdoms have gone > > > > on. > > > > > > > > > > > (Dividing our kingdoms into seven, the last four are what > > > > exoteric > > > > > > > > > > > science divides into three. To this we add the kingdom of man > or > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > Deva kingdom. The respective entities of these we divide into > > > > > > > > > > > germinal, instinctive, semi-conscious, and fully > > > > conscious). . . . > > > > > > > > > > > When all kingdoms have reached globe Z they will not move > forward > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > re-enter A in precedence of man, but under a law of retardation > > > > > > > > > > > operative from the central point -- or earth -- to Z and which > > > > > > > > > > > equilibrates a principle of acceleration in the descending arc > -- > > > > > > > > > > > they will have just finished their respective evolution of > genera > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > species, when man reaches his highest development on globe Z -- > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > this or any round. The reason for it is found in the enormously > > > > > > > > > > > greater time required by them to develop their infinite > varieties > > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > compared with man; the relative speed of development in the > rings > > > > > > > > > > > therefore naturally increases as we go up the scale from the > > > > > > > > > > mineral. > > > > > > > > > > > But these different rates are so adjusted by man stopping > longer > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > the inter-planetary spheres of rest, for weal or woe -- that > all > > > > > > > > > > > kingdoms finish their work simultaneously on the planet Z. For > > > > > > > > > > > example, on our globe we see the equilibrating law manifesting. > > > > > > > > > > From > > > > > > > > > > > the first appearance of man whether speechless or not to his > > > > > > > > > > present > > > > > > > > > > > one as a fourth and the coming fifth round being the structural > > > > > > > > > > > intention of his organization has not radically changed. > > > > > > > > > > Ethnological > > > > > > > > > > > characteristics however varied, affecting in no way man as a > > > > human > > > > > > > > > > > being. The fossil of man or his skeleton whether of the period > of > > > > > > > > > > > that mammalian branch of which he forms the crown, whether > cyclop > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > dwarf can be still recognised at a glance as a relic of man. > > > > Plants > > > > > > > > > > > and animals meanwhile have become more and more unlike what > they > > > > > > > > > > > were. . . . The scheme with its septenary details would be > > > > > > > > > > > incomprehensible to man had he not the power as the higher > Adepts > > > > > > > > > > > have proved of prematurely developing his 6th and 7th senses -- > > > > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > > > which will be the natural endowment of all in the corresponding > > > > > > > > > > > rounds. Our Lord Buddha -- a 6th r. man -- would not have > > > > appeared > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > our epoch, great as were his accumulated merits in previous > > > > > > > > > > rebirths > > > > > > > > > > > but for a mystery. . . . Individuals cannot outstrip the > humanity > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > their round any further than by one remove, for it is > > > > > > > > > > mathematically > > > > > > > > > > > impossible -- you say (in effect): if the fountain of life > flows > > > > > > > > > > > ceaselessly there should be men of all rounds on the earth at > all > > > > > > > > > > > times, etc. The hint about planetary rest may dispel the > > > > > > > > > > > misconception on this head. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When man is perfected qua a given round on Globe A he > disappears > > > > > > > > > > > thence (as had certain vegetables and animals). By degrees this > > > > > > > > > > Globe > > > > > > > > > > > loses its vitality and finally reaches the moon stage, i.e., > > > > death, > > > > > > > > > > > and so remains while man is making his seven rings on Z and > > > > passing > > > > > > > > > > > his inter-cyclic period before starting on his next round. So > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > each Globe in turn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And now as man when completing his seventh ring upon A has but > > > > > > > > > > begun > > > > > > > > > > > his first on Z and as A dies when he leaves it for B, etc., and > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > > > > must also remain in the inter-cyclic sphere after Z, as he has > > > > > > > > > > > between every two planets, until the impulse again thrills the > > > > > > > > > > chain, > > > > > > > > > > > clearly no one can be more than one round ahead of his kind. > And > > > > > > > > > > > Buddha only forms an exception by virtue of the mystery. We > have > > > > > > > > > > > fifth round men among us because we are in the latter half of > our > > > > > > > > > > > septenary earth ring. In the first half this could not have > > > > > > > > > > happened. > > > > > > > > > > > The countless myriads of our fourth round humanity who have > > > > outrun > > > > > > > > > > us > > > > > > > > > > > and completed their seven rings on Z, have had time to pass > their > > > > > > > > > > > inter-cyclic period begin their new round and work on to globe > D > > > > > > > > > > > (ours). But how can there be men of the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 6th and > > > > 7th > > > > > > > > > > > rounds? We represent the first three and the sixth can only > come > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > rare intervals and prematurely like Buddhas (only under > prepared > > > > > > > > > > > conditions) and that the last-named the seventh are not yet > > > > > > > > > > evolved! > > > > > > > > > > > We have traced man out of a round into the Nirvanic state > between > > > > Z > > > > > > > > > > > and A. A was left in the last round dead. As the new round > begins > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > catches the new influx of life, reawakens to vitality and > begets > > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > its kingdoms of a superior order to the last. After this has > been > > > > > > > > > > > repeated seven times comes a minor pralaya; the chain of globes > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > not destroyed by disintegration and dispersion of their > particles > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > pass in abscondito. From this they will re-emerge in their turn > > > > > > > > > > > during the next septenary period. Within one solar period (of a > > > > p. > > > > > > > > > > > and m.) occur seven such minor periods, in an ascending scale > of > > > > > > > > > > > progressive development. To recapitulate there are in the round > > > > > > > > > > seven > > > > > > > > > > > planetary or earth rings for each kingdom and one obscuration > of > > > > > > > > > > each > > > > > > > > > > > planet. The minor manwantara is composed of seven rounds, 49 > > > > rings > > > > > > > > > > > and 7 obscurations, the solar period of 49 rounds, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The periods with pralaya and manwantara are called by Dikshita > > > > > > > > > > "Surya > > > > > > > > > > > manwantaras and pralayas." Thought is baffled in speculating > how > > > > > > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > > > of our solar pralayas must come before the great Cosmic night > -- > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > that will come. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . . . In the minor pralayas there is no starting de novo -- > only > > > > > > > > > > > resumption of arrested activity. The vegetable and animal > > > > kingdoms > > > > > > > > > > > which at the end of the minor manwantara had reached only a > > > > partial > > > > > > > > > > > development are not destroyed. Their life or vital entities, > call > > > > > > > > > > > some of them nati if you will -- find also their corresponding > > > > > > > > > > night > > > > > > > > > > > and rest -- they also have a Nirvana of their own. And why > should > > > > > > > > > > > they not, these foetal and infant entities. They are all like > > > > > > > > > > > ourselves begotten of the one element. . . . As we have our > Dyan > > > > > > > > > > > Chohans so have they in their several kingdoms elemental > > > > guardians > > > > > > > > > > > and are as well taken care of in the mass as is humanity in the > > > > > > > > > > mass. > > > > > > > > > > > The one element not only fills space and isspace, but > > > > > > > > > > interpenetrates > > > > > > > > > > > every atom of cosmic matter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When strikes the hour of the solar pralaya -- though the > process > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > man's advance on his last seventh round is precisely the same, > > > > each > > > > > > > > > > > planet instead of merely passing out of the visible into the > > > > > > > > > > > invisible as he quits it in turn is annihilated. With the > > > > beginning > > > > > > > > > > > of the seventh Round of the seventh minor manwantara, every > > > > kingdom > > > > > > > > > > > having now reached its last cycle, there remains on each planet > > > > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > > the exit of man but the maya of once living and existing forms. > > > > > > > > > > With > > > > > > > > > > > every step he takes on the descending and ascending arcs as he > > > > > > > > > > moves > > > > > > > > > > > on from Globe to Globe the planet left behind becomes an empty > > > > > > > > > > > chrysaloidal case. At his departure there is an outflow from > > > > every > > > > > > > > > > > kingdom of its entities. Waiting to pass into higher forms in > due > > > > > > > > > > > time they are nevertheless liberated: for to the day of that > > > > > > > > > > > evolution they will rest in their lethargic sleep in space > until > > > > > > > > > > > again energized into life in the new solar manwantara. The old > > > > > > > > > > > elementals -- will rest until they are called to become in > their > > > > > > > > > > turn > > > > > > > > > > > the bodies of mineral, vegetable and animal entities (on > another > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > a higher string of globes) on their way to become human > entities > > > > > > > > > > (see > > > > > > > > > > > Isis) while the germinal entities of the lowest forms, and in > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > time of general perfection there will remain but few of such -- > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > hang in space like drops of water suddenly turned to icicles. > > > > They > > > > > > > > > > > will thaw at the first hot breath of a solar manwantara and > form > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > soul of the future globes. . . . The slow development of the > > > > > > > > > > > vegetable kingdom provided for by the longer inter-planetary > rest > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > man. . . . When the solar pralaya comes the whole purified > > > > humanity > > > > > > > > > > > merges into Nirvana and from that inter-solar Nirvana will be > > > > > > > > > > reborn > > > > > > > > > > > in higher systems. The string of worlds is destroyed and > vanishes > > > > > > > > > > > like a shadow from the wall in the extinguishment of light. We > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > every indication that at this very moment such a solar pralaya > is > > > > > > > > > > > taking place while there are two minor ones ending somewhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At the beginning of the solar manwantara the hitherto > subjective > > > > > > > > > > > elements of the material world now scattered in cosmic dust -- > > > > > > > > > > > receiving their impulse from the new Dyan Chohans of the new > > > > solar > > > > > > > > > > > system (the highest of the old ones having gone higher) -- will > > > > > > > > > > form > > > > > > > > > > > into primordial ripples of life and separating into > > > > differentiating > > > > > > > > > > > centres of activity combine in a graduated scale of seven > stages > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > evolution. Like every other orb of space our Earth has before > > > > > > > > > > > obtaining its ultimate materiality -- and nothing now in this > > > > world > > > > > > > > > > > can give you an idea of what this state of matter is -- to pass > > > > > > > > > > > through a gamut of seven stages of density. I say gamut > advisedly > > > > > > > > > > > since the diatonic scale best affords an illustration of the > > > > > > > > > > > perpetual rythmic motion of the descending and ascending cycle > of > > > > > > > > > > > Swabhavat -- graduated as it is by tones and semi-tones. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have among the learned members of your society one > > > > Theosophist > > > > > > > > > > > who without familiarity with our occult doctrine, has yet > > > > > > > > > > intuitively > > > > > > > > > > > grasped from scientific data the idea of a solar pralaya and > its > > > > > > > > > > > manwantara in their beginnings. I mean the celebrated French > > > > > > > > > > > astronomer Flammarion -- "La Resurrection et la Fin des > > > > > > > > > > > Mondes" (Chapter 4 res.). He speaks like a true seer. The facts > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > as he surmises with slight modifications. In consequence of the > > > > > > > > > > > secular refrigeration (old age rather and loss of vital power), > > > > > > > > > > > solidification and desiccation of the globes, the earth arrives > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > point when it begins to be a relaxed conglomerate. The period > of > > > > > > > > > > > child-bearing is gone by. The progeny are all nurtured, its > term > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > life is finished. Hence "its constituent masses cease to obey > > > > those > > > > > > > > > > > laws of cohesion and aggregation which held them together." And > > > > > > > > > > > becoming like a cadaver which abandoned to the work of > > > > destruction > > > > > > > > > > > would leave each molecule composing it free to separate itself > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > the body for ever to obey in future the sway of new influences. > > > > The > > > > > > > > > > > attraction of the moon (would that he could know the full > extent > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > its pernicious influence) would itself undertake the task of > > > > > > > > > > > demolition by producing a tidal wave of earth particles instead > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > > > aqueous tide. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > His mistake is that he believes a long time must be devoted to > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > ruin of the solar system: we are told that it occurs in the > > > > > > > > > > twinkling > > > > > > > > > > > of an eye but not without many preliminary warnings. Another > > > > error > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > the supposition that the earth will fall into the sun. The sun > > > > > > > > > > itself > > > > > > > > > > > is first to disintegrate at the solar pralaya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . . . Fathom the nature and essence of the sixth principle of > the > > > > > > > > > > > universe and man and you will have fathomed the greatest > mystery > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > this our world -- and why not -- are you not surrounded by it? > > > > What > > > > > > > > > > > are its familiar manifestations, mesmerism, Od force, etc. -- > all > > > > > > > > > > > different aspects of one force capable of good and evil > > > > > > > > > > applications. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The degrees of an Adept's initiation mark the seven stages at > > > > which > > > > > > > > > > > he discovers the secret of the sevenfold principles in nature > and > > > > > > > > > > man > > > > > > > > > > > and awakens his dormant powers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > End of letter 15 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Christina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" > > > > <global- > > > > > > > > > > > theosophy@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Christina > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My views are: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not in possesion of this book and others are not. > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you able to make quotes from the relevant passages from > the > > > > > > > > > > > online version? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > M. Sufilight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >