Theos-Talk Archives (November 2008 Message tt00393)

Sumadha is not samadhi.

a Sumadha is one living from within her or his middle, so has 
equilibriumin in diaphragm.

but thanks for you vision
Christina



--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@... wrote:
>
> Christina,
>      I recall reading a long time ago that when a Yogi enters very 
deep sustained Samadhi  for long periods due to physiological 
normative processes the residual wastes in the body could poison the 
body if not removed. because the Yogi is not moving this waste by 
normal process there is an ancient obscure teaching and knowledge 
that allows through reverse respiration from within to the without to 
evacuate the wastes through using the body's largest organ, the skin. 
The respiration of the wastes comes  through the pores of the skin 
and the attendants of the Yogi when bathing him wipe away these 
wastes pperiodically. It is a delicate topic and discrete.
> 
>    When Creation manifests there is no karma possibility until the 
Cosmic Buddhic Principle manifests as it is the Buddhic Principal 
that makes possible discrimination and with that difference and with 
that change manifests apparent perception of duality, the basic 
condition under which  karma may come into manifestation. Truth is 
the absolute absence of error and is not secondary because that can 
only habitat in the Absolute. Error is condition of karmic 
accumulations
> 
>    A while back some member here mentioned the word "Harmony" when 
the perfected center is found and maintained Harmony presences. it is 
a wonderful word in it's meaning. "What is harmony? is an excellent 
inquiry.
> 
> Just my personal pov.
> 
> Regards,
> John
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>  -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: "christinaleestemaker" <christinaleestemaker@...> 
> Possibly we can see it as a balance(scales)if scales hanging in the 
> zeropoint or in balance that can be truth and if one scale is out 
of 
> balance we produce Karma.
> 
> So the only work to do is to keep all in balance and in the middle 
of 
> ourselves.(sumadha).
> Christina
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Martin <Mvandertak@> wrote:
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> > True Cass, whole libraries have been written about Karma :-)
> > 
> > --- On Tue, 11/18/08, Cass Silva <silva_cass@> wrote:
> > From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@>
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Meister Eckhart on "God"
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 12:28 AM
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> > I would have thought that Truth would cease Karma - 
> surely if we understand something we change our ideas about it
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> > Cass
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> > ____________ _________ _________ __
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> > From: Martin <Mvandertak@yahoo. com>
> > 
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> > 
> > Sent: Monday, 17 November, 2008 10:07:45 AM
> > 
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Meister Eckhart on "God"
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> > 
> > Understanding Truth can cause Karma, because the Beings come from 
> Cosmic Kama...all misunderstanding causes 'bad karma with lessons 
to 
> follow' ; all knowing causes expanding consciousness or 
> horizons...except the horizons are as well vertical as 
> horizontal.. .and all in between...we have to understand the 3 
> worlds, tamas, rajas and sattva...beyond this you have to ask a 
> Buddha or Avatar...The 3 worlds are symbologically The Sun, The 
Moon 
> and The Earth. The Sun is sattva, the Moon is tamas and the Earth 
> rajas. Rajas means work or reality, so we know what to do here: 
work, 
> work work ( W.W.W.).
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> > 
> > 
> > --- On Sun, 11/16/08, Martin <Mvandertak@ yahoo. com> wrote:
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> > From: Martin <Mvandertak@ yahoo. com>
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> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Meister Eckhart on "God"
> > 
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
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> > Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 11:58 PM
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> > 
> > There is no karma above Truth
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> > 
> > --- On Sun, 11/16/08, Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@ 
> stofanet. dk> wrote:
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> > 
> > From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Meister Eckhart on "God"
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> > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
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> > Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 9:05 PM
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> > My views are:
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> > Karma sprang from ParaBrahm.
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> > Peoples opinion of Karma are clouded by illusion.
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> > The world is an illusion, but the Truth is shown there.
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> > There is in reality only ParaBrahm.
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> > So is Parabrahm merely an illusion?
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> > M. Sufilight
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> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
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> > From: "Martin" <Mvandertak@ yahoo. com>
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> > To: <theos-talk@ yahoogro ups.com>
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> > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:50 PM
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> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Meister Eckhart on "God"
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> > Karma is an illusion...
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> > 
> > --- On Sun, 11/16/08, Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@ 
> stofanet. dk> 
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> > wrote:
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> > From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk>
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> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Meister Eckhart on "God"
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> > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
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> > Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 7:26 PM
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> > Well, Chuck, you Being a heretic and all, I Would of course 
expect 
> such an 
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> > answer coming from you. :-)
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> > But, one could ask oneself:
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> > What is Karma and what is visdom...
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> > M. Sufilight
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> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
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> > 
> > From: Drpsionic@aol. com
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> > 
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
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> > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 7:16 PM
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> > 
> > 
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Meister Eckhart on "God"
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> > 
> > I rather like my comment on God when my wife had her stroke and 
was 
> in a
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> > coma for two weeks, thus causing one of her sisters to comment 
that 
> "God 
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> > has a
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> > reason for this." My response was, "If your idiot God knew what 
he 
> was 
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> > doing
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> > in the first place she would not be here!"
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> > Chuck the Heretic
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> > In a message dated 11/16/2008 11:49:06 A.M. Central Standard Time,
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> > danielhcaldwell@ yahoo.com writes:
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> > Here are some of my favorite quotes from
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> > Meister Eckhart (c.1260-c.1328, German mystic):
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> > "God is exempt from all things and he is
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> > all things."
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> > "He who thinks that he sees God, if he
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> > see aught sees naught of God."
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> > "I do not find God outside myself nor
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> > conceive him excepting as my own and in me."
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> > "If I were not, God would not be God."
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> > "All creatures are pure nothingness. I
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> > do not say they are small or
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> > petty: they are pure nothingness. p
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> > "The being [of things] is God."
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> > "The being and the nature of God are
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> > mine. . . . the spark in the soul is beyond
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> > time and space; the soul's
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> > light is uncreated and cannot be created, it
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> > takes possession of God with no mediation; the
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> > core of the soul and the core of God are one."
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> > "Why I pray God to rid me of God is because
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> > conditionless being is above God and above
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> > distinction. d
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> > "God works, the Godhead does no work."
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> > [Short biographical sketch of Eckhart at:
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> > _http://www.bartleby http://www. http://www. b_
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> > (http://www.bartleby .com/65/ec/ Eckhart.html) ]
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> > Do the IDEAS given in these quotes by Eckhart
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> > relate to what is written about "God" in THE
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> > SECRET DOCTRINE and THE MAHATMA LETTERS?
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> > If so,how?
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> > Daniel
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