Theos-Talk Archives (November 2008 Message tt00381)

For some reason I know this stuff.  The other night I ran through the  list 
of kings from Henry 2 all the way to Elizabeth 2 and impressed my wife  
immensely.
 
Chuck the Heretical Source of Useless Knowledge
 
 
In a message dated 11/17/2008 8:17:16 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
silva_cass@yahoo.com writes:

 
 
 
Thanks Chuck - for some reason I always get these two kings  confused
Cass

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From:  "_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) " <_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ 
(mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) >
To: _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) 
Sent:  Tuesday, 18 November, 2008 9:55:34 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Comments  on some statements in Pseudo-letter 
No. 10

It was Henry the 8th. Henry  the 6th was the king who went mad and left the 
crown open for the War of  the Roses to start.

Chuck the Heretic

In a message dated  11/17/2008 4:36:40 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
silva_cass@yahoo. com  writes:

You like Henry the 6th and Constantine have just created a  theosophical 
church of england to fit in with your views.  
Cass

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From: Anand  <_AnandGholap@ AnandGhol_ (mailto:AnandGholap_AnandGholap@>
To:  _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos-To:  _theos-talk@ yahoog
Sent: Monday, 17 November, 2008 6:22:45 AM
Subject: Theos-World Re:  Comments on some statements in Pseudo-letter No. 10

--- In  theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "Anton Rozman" <anton_rozman@  ...>
wrote:
>
> Dear Anand,
> 
> As I find the  topic in discussion crucial for the understanding of 
> the role of the  Theosophical Society I would like to express some 
> personal views.  
> 
> In what sense was the Theosophical Society meant to be  vehicle for 
> the spiritual movement? Can "spiritual movement" express  itself 
> through an organization which is an artificial form of  association of 
> different individuals and not by itself a body capable  to express 
> some "spiritual truth"? Can not spiritual truths, ideas,  express 
> themselves only through individuals? If this is the case, and  it 
> certainly is, then these expressions are necessarily different as  
> individuals are different. The organization can promote some 
>  uniform "spiritual truth" only when its individual members decide to 
>  give up to their individual expressions and subdue themselves, for 
>  whatever reason, to some other individual expression of "spiritual 
>  truth" or "teaching" transforming it into dogma. 

Theosophical Society  may be proud of not having any creed. And it may
also become proud of not  having distinctions based on caste, creed,
sex etc.
But then why should  we meet in Theosophical lodge? 
Person can go to any club to pass time. Or  he can join a library where
there will be many books on different  religions. He can borrow those
books and study, or he can join some  Theology course. 
So, despite fantastic idea of not having creed, I feel  that members of
TS come to TS to study Theosophy, which is composed of  writings of
main Theosophists. For these students writings of these  favorite
Theosophists is creed. You can see students of Blavatsky believing  in
writings of Blavatsky like creed. And some others believing  in
writings of Besant and Leadbeater like creed. So I think  despite
official statements of no creed, there do exist some creeds in TS.  And
if people are not interested in those creeds, i.e. writings  of
favorite Theosophists, they will not come to TS. 
That means even if  TS has not declared officially any creed, there are
3-4 unofficial creeds  in existence. And if even these unofficial
creeds are removed, then there  does not remain any reason for people
to come to the Theosophical  Society.
My problem is related to this issue. I want to spread creed of  Besant
and Leadbeater. Because Blavatsky and Krishnamurti were connected  to
the TS, when I spread creed of Leadbeater, I indirectly give  impulse
to other creeds of Blavatsky and Krishnamurti. Now, I don't agree  with
writings of Blavatsky and Krishnamurti and I don't want to  be
responsible for spreading creeds of Blavatsky and Krishnamurti.  How
can I do that? One solution I found is to reject Krishnamurti  by
expressly writing in my article. I think I should show mistakes  of
Blavatsky and reject that teaching expressly. 
This message gives  some idea of how unofficial creeds exist in TS and
their  dynamics.

Best
Anand Gholap

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