Theos-Talk Archives (November 2008 Message tt00370)

It was Henry the 8th.  Henry the 6th was the king who went mad and  left the 
crown open for the War of the Roses to start.
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
 
In a message dated 11/17/2008 4:36:40 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
silva_cass@yahoo.com writes:

 
 
 
You like Henry the 6th and Constantine have just created a theosophical  
church of england to fit in with your views.    
Cass

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From: Anand  <_AnandGholap@AnandGhol_ (mailto:AnandGholap@gmail.com) >
To:  _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) 
Sent:  Monday, 17 November, 2008 6:22:45 AM
Subject: Theos-World Re: Comments on  some statements in Pseudo-letter No. 10

--- In theos-talk@yahoogro  ups.com, "Anton Rozman" <anton_rozman@ ...>
wrote:
>
>  Dear Anand,
> 
> As I find the topic in discussion crucial for the  understanding of 
> the role of the Theosophical Society I would like to  express some 
> personal views. 
> 
> In what sense was the  Theosophical Society meant to be vehicle for 
> the spiritual movement?  Can "spiritual movement" express itself 
> through an organization which  is an artificial form of association of 
> different individuals and not  by itself a body capable to express 
> some "spiritual truth"? Can not  spiritual truths, ideas, express 
> themselves only through individuals?  If this is the case, and it 
> certainly is, then these expressions are  necessarily different as 
> individuals are different. The organization  can promote some 
> uniform "spiritual truth" only when its individual  members decide to 
> give up to their individual expressions and subdue  themselves, for 
> whatever reason, to some other individual expression  of "spiritual 
> truth" or "teaching" transforming it into dogma.  

Theosophical Society may be proud of not having any creed. And it  may
also become proud of not having distinctions based on caste,  creed,
sex etc.
But then why should we meet in Theosophical lodge?  
Person can go to any club to pass time. Or he can join a library  where
there will be many books on different religions. He can borrow  those
books and study, or he can join some Theology course. 
So, despite  fantastic idea of not having creed, I feel that members of
TS come to TS to  study Theosophy, which is composed of writings of
main Theosophists. For  these students writings of these favorite
Theosophists is creed. You can  see students of Blavatsky believing in
writings of Blavatsky like creed.  And some others believing in
writings of Besant and Leadbeater like creed.  So I think despite
official statements of no creed, there do exist some  creeds in TS. And
if people are not interested in those creeds, i.e.  writings of
favorite Theosophists, they will not come to TS. 
That means  even if TS has not declared officially any creed, there are
3-4 unofficial  creeds in existence. And if even these unofficial
creeds are removed, then  there does not remain any reason for people
to come to the Theosophical  Society.
My problem is related to this issue. I want to spread creed of  Besant
and Leadbeater. Because Blavatsky and Krishnamurti were connected  to
the TS, when I spread creed of Leadbeater, I indirectly give  impulse
to other creeds of Blavatsky and Krishnamurti. Now, I don't agree  with
writings of Blavatsky and Krishnamurti and I don't want to  be
responsible for spreading creeds of Blavatsky and Krishnamurti.  How
can I do that? One solution I found is to reject Krishnamurti  by
expressly writing in my article. I think I should show mistakes  of
Blavatsky and reject that teaching expressly. 
This message gives  some idea of how unofficial creeds exist in TS and
their  dynamics.

Best
Anand Gholap

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