Theos-Talk Archives (November 2008 Message tt00324)

Dear Anand

My views are:

Those who are Chelas have to a certain degree an open Heart of compassion.
They are sensitive and can communicate with each other at a distance using their extra ordinary sensory perception (telepathy or various kinds of clairvoyance etc.).
They do not need to meet at a theosophical lodge.

What is important is in fact proper social relations between people.
Social relations of a kind, which will provoke the spiritual visdom and the opening of the Heart in peoples consciousness. The problem is that it takes time, because the many bad habits poeple have. Habits about that the God-divine is not within themselves, when it in fact is (Even is quoted saying it in the Bible you find so important). It is just like, that : You do not throw pearls before swine.



M. Sufilight

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Anand 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:22 PM
  Subject: Theos-World Re: Comments on some statements in Pseudo-letter No. 10



  --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Anton Rozman" <anton_rozman@...>
  wrote:
  >
  > Dear Anand,
  > 
  > As I find the topic in discussion crucial for the understanding of 
  > the role of the Theosophical Society I would like to express some 
  > personal views. 
  > 
  > In what sense was the Theosophical Society meant to be vehicle for 
  > the spiritual movement? Can "spiritual movement" express itself 
  > through an organization which is an artificial form of association of 
  > different individuals and not by itself a body capable to express 
  > some "spiritual truth"? Can not spiritual truths, ideas, express 
  > themselves only through individuals? If this is the case, and it 
  > certainly is, then these expressions are necessarily different as 
  > individuals are different. The organization can promote some 
  > uniform "spiritual truth" only when its individual members decide to 
  > give up to their individual expressions and subdue themselves, for 
  > whatever reason, to some other individual expression of "spiritual 
  > truth" or "teaching" transforming it into dogma. 

  Theosophical Society may be proud of not having any creed. And it may
  also become proud of not having distinctions based on caste, creed,
  sex etc.
  But then why should we meet in Theosophical lodge? 
  Person can go to any club to pass time. Or he can join a library where
  there will be many books on different religions. He can borrow those
  books and study, or he can join some Theology course. 
  So, despite fantastic idea of not having creed, I feel that members of
  TS come to TS to study Theosophy, which is composed of writings of
  main Theosophists. For these students writings of these favorite
  Theosophists is creed. You can see students of Blavatsky believing in
  writings of Blavatsky like creed. And some others believing in
  writings of Besant and Leadbeater like creed. So I think despite
  official statements of no creed, there do exist some creeds in TS. And
  if people are not interested in those creeds, i.e. writings of
  favorite Theosophists, they will not come to TS. 
  That means even if TS has not declared officially any creed, there are
  3-4 unofficial creeds in existence. And if even these unofficial
  creeds are removed, then there does not remain any reason for people
  to come to the Theosophical Society.
  My problem is related to this issue. I want to spread creed of Besant
  and Leadbeater. Because Blavatsky and Krishnamurti were connected to
  the TS, when I spread creed of Leadbeater, I indirectly give impulse
  to other creeds of Blavatsky and Krishnamurti. Now, I don't agree with
  writings of Blavatsky and Krishnamurti and I don't want to be
  responsible for spreading creeds of Blavatsky and Krishnamurti. How
  can I do that? One solution I found is to reject Krishnamurti by
  expressly writing in my article. I think I should show mistakes of
  Blavatsky and reject that teaching expressly. 
  This message gives some idea of how unofficial creeds exist in TS and
  their dynamics.

  Best
  Anand Gholap



   

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