Theos-Talk Archives (October 2008 Message tt00986)

On October 18th, I sent a posting to Theos-Talk titled:

"Anand's New Possibility: HPB created the form of the Master"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/46672

I want to go back over this material and add a few additional 
comments.

I first give below the gist of my previous comments and then after 
that I give a few more thoughts:

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So Anand, if Madame Blavatsky herself had the ability/power
to "create a form of the Master, show that form to people, and ...
[make] them feel that Master had visited them or met them", what else
might the the "true researcher" want to consider?????

If HPB could indeed "create a form of the Master" and bamboozle
people into thinking a "real Master visited those individuals", then
have YOU considered an even MORE thought-provoking possibility?

Anand, isn't it also possible that there were NO Masters Koot Hoomi
and Morya and Djual Khool --- no masters at all? They just didn't
really exist!!!

H.P. Blavatsky --- being the devious character you have tried to
portray her as --- simply MADE UP, INVENTED the Mahatmas in the first
place. And she used this remarkable power to BAMBOOZLE all the
Theosophists --- Colonel Olcott, A.P. Sinnett, Countess Wachtmeister,
S. Ramaswamier, William Q Judge, C.W. Leadbeater, Annie Besant and a
few dozen other people --- into believing they had encountered these
Mahatmas when in fact they were simply experiencing thought-forms
created by Blavatsky herself.
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It seems that Anand proposed this possibility in order to invalidate 
and cast doubt especially on the testimonies of people who saw the 
Mahatmas and also received some of the Mahatma letters when H.P. 
Blavatsky was hundreds if not thousands of miles away.

One example I gave was when Master KH came in his physical body to 
visit Olcott, Damodar and Mr. Brown on the outskirts of Lahore.  At 
that time the Master gave a letter to the Colonel.  

But as I said in my original Oct. 18th posting partly given above, IF 
HPB could in fact use her psychic/occult powers to even "create a 
form of the Master" and bamboozle people into thinking a "real Master 
visited those individuals", THEN ALL EVIDENCE AND TESTIMONIES GIVEN 
TO SUPPORT THE PHYSICAL REALITY OF THE MAHATMAS CAN BE EASILY 
EXPLAINED AWAY.

So it is possible that there were no Mahatmas at all.  HPB -- for 
reasons best known to her --- imagined the Mahatmas and with her 
psychic powers could create illusions in which witnesses were 
deceived into believing that they had encountered the Mahatma in his 
physical body.

For example, see my webpage in which I compiled:

"Colonel Henry S. Olcott's Testimony about His Meetings with the 
Master Morya"
http://blavatskyarchives.com/olcottandmahatmas.htm

If we seriously entertain Anand's possibility, as Anand encouraged 
all "true researchers" to do, then there is no historical evidence 
whatsoever that could in any way prove that the Mahatmas existed as 
real and physical persons.   All evidence can be "explained" away by 
supposing that Madame Blavatsky could "create a form of the Master, 
show that form to people, and ...[make] them feel that Master had 
visited them or met them".

This theory suggested by Anand actually reminds me of certain 
Christian writers who have suggested that the so-called Mahatmas were 
actually "demons" who possessed HPB.  These demons also deceived the 
early Theosophists into believing they were visited by "Mahatmas".

The "Mahatmas" according to this theory were either "demons" 
or "illusions" created by the demons.

In effect, Anand's possibility if seriously entertained and advocated 
could be used by skeptics to invalidate both the Masters and 
Theosophy.

Food for thought....

Daniel
http://hpb.cc