Theos-Talk Archives (October 2008 Message tt00862)

Does Adyar even have a bathroom?
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
 
In a message dated 10/25/2008 4:55:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
global-theosophy@stofanet.dk writes:

 
 
 
To all readers

My views are:

There is no longer a 'Parent  Society'...

The following was written out of compassion to all  interested readers to if 
possible be of service and help.
The thoughtful  and meditating reader might understand more about the present 
situation on  theosophy by reading the below.

H. P. Blavatsky wrote august  1889:
"There is no longer a 'Parent Society;' it is abolished and replaced  
by an aggregate body of Theosophical Societies, all  
autonomous..autonomous..<WBR>.such is the real 
_http://www.blavatskhttp://www.blavahttp://www.blavahttp://w_ 
(http://www.blavatsky.net/blavatsky/arts/PuzzleFromAdyar.htm) 

What  made her write the above?
Maybe the below words could be helpful in  understanding some of it all.

A PUZZLE FROM ADYAR by H. P. Blavatsky,  1889 - (Try to read this article.)
"WHEN the cat is abroad the mice dance  in the house it seems. Since Colonel 
Olcott sailed for Japan, the Theosophist  has never ceased to surprise its 
European readers, and especially the Fellows  of our Society, with most 
unexpected capers. 
It is as if the Sphinx had  emigrated from the Nile and was determined to 
continue offering her puzzles  broadcast to 
the Odipuses of the Society."

"That the E.S. had never  any pretensions to "boss the T.S." stands to 
reason: with the exception of  Col. Olcott, the President, the Esoteric Section has 
nothing whatever to do  with the Theosophical Society, its Council or 
officers. It is a Section  entirely apart from the exoteric body, and independent of 
it, H.P.B. alone  being responsible for its members, as shown in the official 
announcement over  the signature of the President-Founder himself.* It follows, 
therefore, that  the E. S., as a body, owes no allegiance whatever to the 
Theosophical Society,  as a society, least of all to Adyar."

"It is pure nonsense to say that  "H.P.B. . . . is loyal to the Theosophical 
Society and to Adyar" (!?) . H.P.B.  is loyal to death to the Theosophical 
CAUSE, and those great Teachers whose  philosophy can alone bind the whole 
Humanity into one Brotherhood. Together  with Col. Olcott, she is the chief Founder 
and Builder of the Society which  was and is meant to represent that CAUSE; 
and if she is so loyal to H.S.  Olcott, it is not at all because of his being 
its "President," but, firstly,  because there is no man living who has worked 
harder for that Society, or been  more devoted to it than the Colonel, and, 
secondly, because she regards him as  a loyal
friend and co-worker. Therefore the degree of her sympathies with  the 
"Theosophical Society and Adyar" depends upon the degree of the loyalty of  that 
Society to the CAUSE. Let it break away from the original lines and show  
disloyalty in its policy to the CAUSE and the original programme of the  Society, and 
H.P.B. calling the T.S. disloyal, will shake it off like dust  from her feet.
And what does "loyalty to Adyar" mean, in the name of all  wonders? What is 
Adyar, apart from that CAUSE and the two (not one Founder, if  you please) who 
represent it? Why not loyal to the compound or the bathroom of  Adyar?"

"Adyar is the present Headquarters of the Society, because  these 
"Headquarters are wherever the President is," as stated in the  rules.
To be logical, the Fellows of the T.S. had to be loyal to Japan  while Col. 
Olcott was there, and to London during his presence here. There is  no longer a 
"Parent Society"; it is abolished and replaced by an aggregate  body of 
Theosophical Societies, all autonomous, as are the States of America,  and all 
under one Head-President, who, together with H. P. Blavatsky, will  champion the 
CAUSE against the whole world. Such is the real state of  things."
_http://www.katinkahhttp://wwhttp://www.kathttp://wwhttp://wwwhttp://_ 
(http://www.katinkahesselink.net/blavatsky/articles/v11/y1889_049.htm) 

Taking  the above comments into consideration, and while We also know, that 
C. W.  Leadbeater was left in charge in India - august 1888, when Olcott went 
abroad  to Japan, Blavatsky's words are quite interesting. And that Annie 
Besant  joined a short while after visiting H. P. Blavatsky in may 10th  1889.

OLcott wrote in his Old Dairy Leaves:
"Nor was Madame  Blavatsky any more than myself the "Founder" of the Society: 
neither of us was  anything more than a willing agent. . . . it was I who 
proposed the formation  of the Society, who had all the early burden of guiding 
its infant steps, and  who, after the collapse of the original legislative 
scheme of Rules and  Bye-Laws, had . . . all the executive responsibility. . . . 
Yet she was the  intermediary between them [the adepts] and me, thus earning my 
lifelong  gratitude, as she long ago did by brotherly love and loyalty. . . . 
Like the  active volcano, she throws out a good deal 
of lava, scori\v and sulphur,  but like it she often uncovers gold and silver 
veins of arcane truth for those  who are not too blind to see it. -- The 
Theosophist, September  1889"

Historical Perspective - By Kirby Van Mater
"During these  years of Mme. Blavatsky's retirement from direct participation 
in theosophical  affairs (1885-87), the Society had drifted away from the 
influence of the  Adepts. This is apparent from a conversation she had with one 
of her teachers  where he remarked that Colonel Olcott in spite of his great 
labors had during  this time allowed the T.S. to liberate itself from their 
influence, and that  it would not long survive his death (cf. Letters from the 
Masters of the  Wisdom, First Series, Letter 47, 5th edition). Though the date of 
this  discussion is not given, it can be placed approximately in the closing 
months  of 1887 or early 1888. From this time onward till her death in 1891, 
H. P.  Blavatsky played an increasingly significant role in the Society's  
administration so as to reestablish and maintain the work along the  
original lines. This caused some unhappiness and misunderstanding between  
herself and Colonel Olcott. Eventually, in 1890, much distressed over  
circumstances, he stated that he would resign as president at the next  convention in 
December. 
However, at the final moment he announced a change  of mind and retained his 
position in the Society, though his views and lack of  confidence in H.P.B.'s 
methods of work remained unchanged."
_http://www.theosocihttp://www.theoshttp://www.thttp://_ 
(http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/hpb-am/hpb-amh.htm) 

Blavatsky  wrote in 1886 or so:
The following written by Blavatsky is also true  today:
". . . . . It would be well perhaps, if the Jesuits contented  themselves 
with making dupes of Freemasons and opposing 
the Theosophists  and Occultists using for it the Protestant clergy as "cat's 
paw." But their  plottings have a much 
wider scope, and embrace a minuteness of detail and  care of which the world 
in general has no idea. Everything is done 
by them  to bring the mass of mankind again to the state of passive ignorance 
which  they well know is the only one which 
can help them to the consummation of  their purpose of Universal  Despotism."
www.theosophy.www.theosophy.www.theosophy.<WBR>org/Blavatsky/<WBR>Letters of 
H. P.  Blavats

Blavatsky also wrote  about the JESUITS in june 1888 :
"They may try, and perhaps succeed, in  crushing individual members. They 
would vainly try their hand, strong and  powerful as it may be, in an attack on 
the Society. Theosophists are as well  protected, and better, than themselves. 
To the man of modern science, to all  those who know nothing, and who do not 
believe what they hear of WHITE and  BLACK magic, the above will read like 
nonsense. Let it be, though Europe will  very soon experience, and is already so 
experiencing, the heavy hand of the  latter. "
_http://www.blavatskhttp://www.blavahttp://wwhttp://www.blhtt_ 
(http://www.blavatsky.net/blavatsky/arts/Th...OrJesuitism.htm) 

Was  she talking about the World Wars, Hitler, The Catholic Church's 
agreements  with politicians, and The Christian fanatics?

So the question is where  are we today?

M. Sufilight

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