Theos-Talk Archives (October 2008 Message tt00469)

You have nothing to worry about.  The only thing that will happen in  2012 is 
that Alex will be suddenly transported to Guatemala where the Mayans  will 
attempt to sacrifice him, the gods will be insulted and then wipe them out  in 
disgust at being given such a ridiculous windbag as an offering.
 
And the fun is just beginning.
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
 
In a message dated 10/17/2008 8:13:36 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
silva_cass@yahoo.com writes:

 
 
 
Don't leave it too long- I am hanging out for 2012 but the gods may decide  
otherwise  lol

Cass

----- Original Message ----
From:  MKR <_mkr777@gmail.mkr_ (mailto:mkr777@gmail.com) >
To: _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) 
Sent:  Friday, 17 October, 2008 12:21:26 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Countess  Blavatskaya

Some day I will share with you my personal experience in  the USA on this
matter.

mkr

On 10/16/08, Cass Silva  <silva_cass@silva_cass> wrote:
>
> Why is it that Adyar  remains silent in disseminating theosophy - those
> that are there are  supposed to be the most knowledgeable of all 
theosophists
> yet those in  power remain silent about the latest scientific discoveries
> that have  since proven HPB correct, nothing there - nada- just a commercial
>  enterprise to purchase literature - surely the raisson dette of those  in
> Adyar should be to disseminate theosophy to the masses but imo If  it wasn't
> for the American-Australian -European TS websites we would  still hold a 
20th
> century mindset.
>
> If anyone asks me  about theosophy I advice them to avoid Adyar - Leadbeater
> - and Besant  (although her earlier good works go out with the nonsense that
>  followed.
>
> Cass
>
> ----- Original Message  ----
> From: MKR <mkr777@gmail. com <mkr777%40gmail.  com>>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk%  40yahoogroups. com>
> Sent: Thursday, 16 October, 2008 10:28:19  PM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Countess Blavatskaya
>
>  Many of those who post jokingly about HPB are long time members and  know
> what real theosophy is and practice it in their daily life. They  do not
> hold
> any offices.
>
> Those of us who have  read the early history of TS, know HPB's sacrifices.
> (She did not take  up the TS project after a comfortable retirement from
> another  full-time job, she sacrificed prime of her life). Travel, food and
>  accommodation in India in those days were quite difficult for a  Westerner
> and both HPB and HSO never complained about it since they  did not go there
> to enjoy a vacation.
>
> The had a  mission, which was hard from every point of view. They both
> understood  what the Adepts meant when when they were told that the success
> or  failure of TS has a bearing on the salvation or failure of future of
>  humanity.
>
> Compare this to the whining and complaining by some  of today's so called
> "theosophists" who say how they cannot live at  Adyar. Today Chennai, the
> city where Adyar is located, is a buzzing  modern Industrial and Business
> hub where you can get conveniences  comparable to anywhere in the world.
>
> So this contrast simply  tells us that to many of today's theosophists,
> theosophy just seems to  be another entertainment to keep them busy after
> retirement. If people  cannot sacrifice, they should stop meddling, and they
> should get out  of the way, and let others who are willing take up the work
> do the  work. In my opinion, obstruction and selfishness are sure signs of
>  Dugpas and Shammars activity impeding the work of TS.
>
> Any  feedback?
> mkr
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 8:12 PM, Richard Semock  <semockr@hotmail. com>
> wrote:
>
> > There is  quite a cult of personality grown up about the founder but
> > do not  let that obscure her real purpose which was the dissemination
> > of  the ancient wisdom by the masters of the wisdom. HPB was uniquely
> >  fitted for the mission and that is why she was chosen by them for the
>  > task.
> >
> > That is of course, if you believe in the  masters and their ancient
> > wisdom that they went to great lengths  to demonstrate and offer
> > prooofs about thru her. HPB was all  about being a channel for the
> > hidden knowledge but her gargantuan  personality sometimes is
> > mistakenly given center stage.
>  >
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk%  40yahoogroups. com>,
> > Drpsionic@.. . wrote:
> >  >
> > > It was impossible to grow up in the US in the 1960s and  have any
> > interest in
> > > the Occult without running  into references to HPB but I pretty much
> > passed
> > >  them over as stuff from a previous century. And somewhere along
> >  the line I
> > > ran into a letter my family has written by my  great great
> > grandfather when he
> > > was fighting  with Garibaldi about a strange Russian noblewoman who
> > ran  the
> > > brothel.
> > >
> > > Anyway,  after a rather convoluted series of events I found myself
> > in the  TS
> > > and paying a bit more attention to the biography of HPB  and there
> > was this
> > > story about Garibaldi. And I  wonder how many Russian noblewomen
> > were with
> > >  Garibaldi and maybe someone was changing the story a bit.
> >  >
> > > But hell, no one ever accused me of being a prude, not  with my
> > lifestyle,
> > > and the story I think is  true only makes her more interesting to me
> > for a simple
>  > > reason. Blavatsky was not a statue in a church, not a saint,  not
> > a
> > > goddess. She was a living, breathing  human being.
> > >
> > > And in my decades in the TS I  keep hearing stuff claimed about her
> > that sort
> > >  of makes my head spin. There are people who will go berserk at
> >  the thought
> > > that she might have had, gasp, sex. And there is  the little
> > matter of the
> > > drug use, even though  it was a pain killer and she needed pain
> > killers. Her
>  > > body did not like her in her later years.
> > >
>  > > She never intended that her ideas be holy writ, though she  could
> > get
> > > downright abusive to those who had  the temerity to remind her of
> > that. And she
> > >  could be wrong, dead wrong about some things. And being a person
> >  of her time she
> > > would naturally have ideas that would not  stand the test of time.
> > Her words
> > > are to be  taken as what they are, words, to be studied, questioned
> > and  in
> > > the end either accepted or not. They are not golden  drippings
> > from the nose of
> > > god, in spite of the  ravings of the Judge worshippers. And they
> > are not the
>  > > last word for the simple reason that there is no last word.  And
> > those who
> > > regard her in that way do her a  great disservice because when her
> > human
> > >  weaknesses are discovered, there are people who get very
> >  disappointed. Better to
> > > know that there is no idol than to  have it fall over on you.
> > >
> > > Better to admire  her for what she was, a person of extraordinary
> > energy  and
> > > knowledge whose presence still looms over the world, who  is a
> > source of
> > > inspiration for us and of horror  to our enemies. Let us honor her
> > for that and at
> >  > the same time have a good laugh at the extreme gravity of her
>  > person which
> > > could break chairs and capsize boats if  she looked over the side.
> > (I used to
> > > joke that  she was the reason my family ended up in America because
> > she  caused
> > > the Great Pasta Famine.)
> > >
>  > > And let us never, ever forget her humanity.
> >  >
> > > Chuck the Heretic
> > >
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