Theos-Talk Archives (October 2008 Message tt00110)

True what you are seeing.
But it is like to put old material(wine) into new bottles. 
As several years ago discussion walks into the same direction.
What we see after this years only members took off .
Why?
Because we cannot put the material into new ways!
We only can use the old knowledge into our present time.
A lot of the written parts we can forget, because they are long-
winded.Too much surrounded by personal inpact.And what else, the 
writer has to deal with his personal ego.
I have not seen anyone who writes without. It seems to me that they 
want to fill the book, why they could say in essentials.
Till the moment we live now, they fill books with words
to make it for sale by stories.
There are not essential onces.
Maybe we need to make essentials for future.

christina











--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Warwick Keys" <keyteach@...> 
wrote:
>
> 
> Dear Theosophists
> 
> Beneath the surface of the present 'hooha' on the proposed changes 
to
> the TS international constitution of the Society is a basic 
principle, a
> principle which surely must be basic to modern theosophical 
thinking. It
> is the principle of democracy and democratic process.
> 
> An objective outside obsever who has any knowledge and experience of
> organisational structures and democratic process can immediately 
discern
> that the TS rules are seriously flawed and follow a hierarchial
> Victorian line that allows for the possiblity of manipulation and
> autocratic control. The constitution is seriously out of date and
> certainly out of time now in the twenty-first century.
> 
> Those members presently debating the pros and cons of the suggested
> changes are on the whole displaying an untheosophical lack of
> objectivity and discernment - both ways. Emotionally based tirades 
do
> nothing to further the progress of the Society or the advancement of
> theosophy - in fact they hinder the process.
> 
> This is a time for cool heads, clear thinking and attunement to true
> theosophical understandings. Few of the contributors to the current
> discussions display much knowledge and/or experince of democratic
> organisation and process.
> 
> I have around forty years such experience here in New Zealand - 
outside
> of the Theosophical Society. I have been involved in political 
activity
> at all levels from national politics to local governement at all 
levels.
> I also have been involved in the drawing up of constitutions for 
three
> or four incorporated societies.
> 
> The present constitution of the Inernational Theosophical Society is
> seriously flawed when viewed objectively and with discerning eyes. 
It
> allows for an organised group within the Society to dominate the 
Society
> by 'constitutional' means, whether knowingly or unwittingly 
(although I
> think the latter is unlikely).
> 
> If the Society is to make progess, and more importantly, if the
> promotion of the Theosophical teachings and the work of The 
Masters, is
> to move forward - instead of remaining stagnant, then one of the 
first
> moves has to be to free up the method of governance and bring the
> Society into line with progressive and positive modern 
organisational
> practice.
> 
> Objective discussion, free from low emotion, is surely the expected 
norm
> for discussion in the Society. It is not always easy to find at 
present.
> 
> Let the discerning Theosophists make their voices heard and let us 
heed
> the wisdom of Sophia and of the Fathers of Democracy.
> 
> Fraternal greetings
> 
> Warwick Keys
> 
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