Theos-Talk Archives (October 2008 Message tt00063)

I am also against removing members direct vote.

With all the talk of "governance", no one has talked about "governance" at
home. The membership is on a pityful downward slide. Those who want changes,
should fix problems in their backyard before trying to fix problems
world-wide.

Only members who are participants here know about what a small group of GC
members are trying do. Personally I am glad that the proposals came out in
the open early, courtesy of Internet (which the leaders do not want
to touch, except for talking between themselves). As someone pointed out,
we have to use our common sense and do not need to quote anyone or quibble
over the nuances of words.

mkr


On 10/3/08, Erica Letzerich <eletzerich@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>   I have no proposal concerning the amendment. I am radically against the
> removal of the members' right to vote directly for international president.
> If I made any comment earlier which I am not sure to which Anton is
> refering, was related to Anand's comments.
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> Erica
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> --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Anton Rozman <anton_rozman@yahoo.com<anton_rozman%40yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
> From: Anton Rozman <anton_rozman@yahoo.com <anton_rozman%40yahoo.com>>
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Anand Gholap formula for General Council
> composition
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 8:18 AM
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> Dear friends,
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> My message
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> http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/theos- talk/message/ 46049
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> was intended as a joke and a warning what can happen if we begin to
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> promote participation in power in multi-national bodies on the basis
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> of one man one vote. It seems that a joke was taken seriously while a
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> warning wasn't considered at all.
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> I would suggest that some research is made in regard to Fair and
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> Equal Participation and I apologize if some misunderstandings have
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> arisen.
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> Warmest regards,
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> Anton
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> --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, MKR <mkr777@...> wrote:
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> > Your suggestion is very good. In the USA, there are around 400+
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> congressmen
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> > elected on proportional basis. Large GC is feasible. It is easy to
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> travel to
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> > India by Air and there is even going to be some non-stop flight
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> from the
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> > USA. So travel is not an excuse for not attending the meeting.
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> > Only countries with a very few members would find their relative
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> importance
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> > reduced temporarily. They can work hard and increase their
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> membership and is
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> > feasible. Talk of the President living in Timbuktoo and remotely
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> > administering is like telling United States that the President can
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> live in
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> > his ranch in Texas and run the administration with the communication
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> > capabilities available. If any presidential candidate in the
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> election now
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> > going on here talks about such a plan, he/she will never get
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> elected. All it
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> > needs is some simple common sense. My 0.02.
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> >
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> > MKR
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> > On 9/29/08, Anand <AnandGholap@ ...> wrote:
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> > >
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> > > Here is my formula for general council composition which will
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> make
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> > > General Council much more sound, just and effective.
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> > >
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> > > If size of the General Council is too small TS can become victim
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> of
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> > > the whims of few individuals. Larger size enables more balanced
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> > > decision making.
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> > > One representative should come to the General Council for every
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> 200
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> > > ordinary members of the TS.
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> > > Membership in India is 13,000.
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> > > 13,000 divided by 200 is 65. So India should send 65
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> representatives
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> > > to the General Council.
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> > > America has around 5000 members. 5000 divided by 200 is 25. So
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> America
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> > > should send 25 representatives to the General Council.
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> > > Similarly total membership of the TS is 30000.
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> > > 30,000 divided by 200 is 150. So total representative in the GC
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> should
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> > > be 150.
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> > >
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> > > While decision making, each representative will have one vote.
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> > > Due to proportionate representation in the General Council, some
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> > > countries may not be able to send one full member to the GC. For
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> > > example Greek section might be eligible to send only half the
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> > > representative to the GC. In such case that country may send one
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> full
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> > > member to the GC, but such member shall not have voting rights.
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> Only a
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> > > full member should vote.
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> > > Reason why all countries should be eligible to send at least one
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> > > representative is they can present their country specific
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> problems to
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> > > the General Council and
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> > > their views will at least be heard.
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> > > Best
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> > > Anand Gholap
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