Theos-Talk Archives (September 2008 Message tt00266)

Its not nonsense , its just that they don't know, they are clutching at straws, desperatly hoping, and when the hope dissipates they lose faith and pick someone that is the best choice at the time, not neccessarily the actual world teacher....besides the chaos in the world isnt strong enough to evoke the coming messiah quite yet...god is patience...the time will come when faith in the world is at an all time low.....keep beleiveing..:)

--- On Fri, 26/9/08, Drpsionic@aol.com <Drpsionic@aol.com> wrote:

From: Drpsionic@aol.com <Drpsionic@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Theos-World Supposedly poor choice of agent/vehicle by the Masters and th...
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, 26 September, 2008, 4:14 PM






I think they needed to take the vehicle into the repair shop. The whole 
thing would seem to be pretty self-evident nonsense.

Chuck the Heretic


In a message dated 9/26/2008 8:37:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
anandaam@googlemail .com writes:

If we believe Leadbeater's accounts about HPB and Krishnamurty then the
Masters KH and M, along with the Lord Maitreya, must be very poor judges of
people when it comes to selecting agents (or vehicles) to help carry out the
work of the Brotherhood.

The Master KH wrote that they - the Adepts - searched for one hundred years
to find someone who would be a suitable agent to carry out their work of
presenting the the Ancient Wisdom to the world at the end of the 19th
century. They must have begun their search in the mid 1700s, or before.
Their choice was H.P.Blavatsky. They could have waited another 5, 10, 20
or 40 years to find the best agent possible - especially if there was
someone better coming along just after HPB - after all they had already
spent more than a hundred years searching for the ideal canditate. But they
didn't. Presumably they knew what they were doing and presumably an Adept
(in fact it was more than one) is a reasonable judge of Occult ability and
spiritual character.

Yet according to Leadbeater, Subba Row's description of HPB confirmed his
(ie Leadbeater's) view that the real HPB and left the body in 1865 (before
HPB had even took on the major part of the Master's work). All that
remained, according to Leadbeater was the shell of the body occasionally
inhabited by a failed adept, two inexperienced chelas and a completely
ignorant bad tempered old tibetan woman.

If we accept Leadbeater's statements about HPB then the Adepts' must be very
poor at choosing people to help them, no matter how long they are given to
choose!!
Likewise, Krishnamurty (according to Leadbeater et al) was the chosen
vehicle of the Lord Maitreya. In other words, he was ACTUALLY CHOSEN by the
Lord Maitreya. Through Krishnamurty the Lord Maitreya was going to take up
the role of World Teacher in the early 1900s - the return of the Christ with
his Liberal Catholic Church, its Bishops (Leadbeater et al) and his 12
Apostles (again, Leadeater, Besant et al).

The Leadbeater-Besant view of the Lord Maitreya was that Maitreya could see
so far into the future that he was able to assign very senior occult
positions to Leadbeater et al in the Seventh Race (some millions of years in
the future - we are only in the fifth race). Maitreya was even able to
offer the position of Buddha on Mercury (some BILLIONS of years in the
future) to - you guessed it - members of the Leadbeater, Arundale,
Wedgwood, Besant circle.

However - didn't the Lord Maitreya, through Leadbeater, offer the job of the
Buddha on Mercury to George Arundale in 1914 and only a few years later
change his mind and offer it, again through Leadbeater, to Rajagopal when he
was discovered by Leadbeater? (See my earlier post for these references.)
With a billion years and a few pralayas between then an now one really has
to wonder how many times will the Lord Maitreya chop and change his mind
about who is best for the job of Buddha on Mercury. Or is it something to
do with each time Leadbeater discovers someone else with a pure aura?

Apparently with all the Wisdom of the Ages behind him and the great
foresight into the needs of the future billions of years ahead, the Lord
Maitreya didn't anticipate that his chosen vehicle for the last century (J.
Krishnamurty) would change his mind at the very last moment.

One also has to wonder - if Arundale, Rajagopal, Wedgwood, Leadbeater and
Besant et al were already of such a high occult development* as to be
allocated jobs as Manus, Race Boddhisattvas, MahaChohans, Chief of Staff of
7th Race, Buddha of Mercury, why didn't any of them take up the role of the
vehicle of the Lord Maitreya so that the plan of the World Teacher could
carry on unfolding? After all, both Arundale and Leadbeater claimed they
met and spoke with the Lord Maitreya face to face. Why and how could such a
master plan, brought into being under the instruction of the World Teacher
for the benefit of all humanity, just evaporate on the whim of one person,
Krishnamurti?

Is this just another case of poor choice of agent/vehicle by the Adept
Brotherhood and even of their Chief (according to Leadbeater), the World
Teacher? Or is there something fundamentally wrong with the whole story?

Murthy

(* Note - they claimed so many initiations they probably surpased the
initiation degree of the Masters M and KH.)
Murthy

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A.M.

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