Theos-Talk Archives (September 2008 Message tt00177)

Suppose an Occultist were to claim that the first grand organ of a cathedral had come originally into being in the following manner. First, there was a progressive and gradual elaboration in Space of an organizable material, which resulted in the production of a state of matter named organic PROTEIN. Then, under the influence of incident forces, those states having been thrown into a phase of unstable equilibrium, they slowly and majestically evolved into and resulted in new combinations of carved and polished wood, of brass pins and staples, of leather and ivory, wind-pipes and bellows. After which, having adapted all its parts into one harmonious and symmetrical machine, the organ suddenly pealed forth Mozart's Requiem. This was followed by a Sonata of Beethoven, etc., ad infinitum;its keys playing of themselves and the wind blowing into the pipes by its own inherent force and fancy. . . . . What would Science say to such a theory? Yet, it is precisely
 in such wise that the materialistic savants tell us that the Universe was formed, with its millions of beings, and man, its spiritual crown.
HPB

Cass



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Sent: Wednesday, 24 September, 2008 7:05:06 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Daniel, why don't you warn readers about Blavatsky's mist...


Chuck,
OMG!!!! Are you implying that Mt. Meru is made of Granulated Uncertainty Particles and Pebbles??? Is there a relation to the Uncertainty Principle in modern Physics???? If the Universe is built by Uncertainity Particles that means we are intrinsicely and immutably and irrevocably all composed of Uncertainity Itself!!! Could that be why we argue so much about anything and everything?? ? The very Air we breathe must also be composed of vast numbers of Uncertianty particles that are certainly uncertain where they came from or where they are going!!! OMG we don't have even a single Atom of Certainty in our entire body!!!! Could there also be an Uncertainity Doom Theory???

Regards, 
John (uncertain about that)

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From: Drpsionic@aol. com 
If Theosophy is anything, it is ambiguous. The cosmos is built upon 
uncertainty.

Chuck the Heretic

In a message dated 9/23/2008 7:36:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
silva_cass@yahoo. com writes:

Theosophy is a philosophy not a religion and as a philosophy it must be 
coherent and without ambiguity. Leadbeater brought ambiguity into theosophy by 
preaching opposing dogma to what was stated by the originators. Dugpas are 
Masters of Uncertainty!

Cass

----- Original Message ----
From: Martin <_Mvandertak@ yahoo.Mva_ (mailto:Mvandertak@yahoo. com) >
To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com) 
Sent: Tuesday, 23 September, 2008 8:40:10 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Daniel, why don't you warn readers about 
Blavatsky's mistakes ?

Aren't we all believing in lies and half Truths?
Theosophy is wisdom of the gods it is said; if we want to believe in the 
Truth we need to go for Ethymo-sophia or the wisdom of the Real or reality and 
not some poxy stuff about gods, philosophers and scientists. Reality is now 
and not in the past nor the future; we can use the now springboarding into 
eternity.
If there was so much truth in theosophy, why are people still discussing it 
instead of launching new ideas coming from the same source and developing 
f.i. anthroposophy and alike science...

--- On Tue, 9/23/08, Cass Silva <silva_cass@ silva_cass> wrote:

From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@ silva_cass>
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Daniel, why don't you warn readers about 
Blavatsky's mistakes ?
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 2:23 AM

Daniel 
Anand will never admit that Leadbeater got it wrong because he would then 
have to admit that he (Anand) has spent 40 years in believing in lies.

Cass

----- Original Message ----
From: Anand <AnandGholap@ gmail.com>
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Monday, 22 September, 2008 7:05:53 PM
Subject: Theos-World Re: Daniel, why don't you warn readers about 
Blavatsky's mistakes ?

Subject of Theosophy, as understood by world and students of
Theosophy, is complex. When I read messages of students of Blavatsky
and messages of students of CWL, I find that what they understand
Theosophy and it's main concepts is very different. That means
Theosophical understanding of students of Blavatsky is different from
understanding of students of Leadbeater. Differences are big and on
important topics. It is possible that HPB and CWL had same meaning in
mind but expressed that in different words. But their impact is
certainly different on people. If somebody is referring Theosophy, I
might ask "are you talking about Theosophy of Blavatsky or are you
talking about Theosophy of Besant-Leadbeater ?"
Similarly reactions of westerners and Christians to Theosophy depend
on what they consider as Theosophy. When they consider Blavatsky's
writing as Theosophy, they ridicule, hate Theosophy. Such hatred is
not expressed by those Christians who consider CWL's writing as Theosophy.
I have come to a point where it is necessary to make clear distinction
between Theosophy of Leadbeater-Besant and Theosophy of Blavatsky. As
these two are different and have different effects on people, I feel
that such distinction is very necessary. It is because we often come
in contact with students of Blavatsky not agreeing with students of
Leadbeater and CWL-students ignoring Blavatsky's writing. 
I am also feeling a need of writing article making it clear which
Theosophy I support and which Theosophy I reject. I agreed with CWL,
but I did not agree with Krishnamurti. I felt Krishnamurti' s teaching
would do damage to humanity. So I rejected openly K's teaching, just
as Catholic church openly rejects abortion and gay marriage.
I feel that I should now write article on which Theosophical ideas I
support and which Theosophical ideas I reject.
Best
Anand Gholap

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