Theos-Talk Archives (September 2008 Message tt00066)

CWL says that Subba Rao related about complex nature of HPB and at the
end write "this true explanation". 
>From it one can say that CWL might have been told by Subba Rao about
HPB's nature, and later CWL might have independently investigated and
found that it was true. Confidence shown by CWL in this explanation of
SR also indicates that CWL had reasons to believe it was true. CWL
might have consulted other disciples and perhaps Masters to know
whether that SR's story was true. And that could have given him so
much confidence in that explanation. 
In entire Theosophical writing most funny passages I read so far were
A.O. Humes reply to Master K.H. about HPB's leaving one principle in
Tibet.

Best
Anand Gholap

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "danielhcaldwell"
<danielhcaldwell@...> wrote:
>
> Anand,
> 
> Concerning what you write in your posting at:
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/45746
> 
> I will add a few observations.
> 
> Anand, you write:
> 
> "CWL had wrote earlier that HPB's soul had left that body around 
> 1865."
> 
> "CWL also described HPB is similar words in that particular letter of 
> his."
> 
> "CWL letter does not contradict this. But there is one important thing
> to remember."
> 
> "CWL described what was happening through HPB's body."
> 
> But I ask you Anand and other interested readers, at this point in 
> time (June 14, 1885) is C.W. Leadbeater actually claiming that he 
> himself knows of his own personal direct knowledge that what he 
> writes about HPB is true???
> 
> Let us not jump to hasty conclusions.
> 
> Notice what C.W. Leadbeater writes:
> 
> "Subba Row related to us recently more concerning Madame's remarkable 
> complex character than I, at least, had previously known...."
> 
> Unless I am missing out on something here, Mr. Leadbeater is simply 
> conveying in this letter what SUBBA ROW RELATED AND TOLD C.W. 
> LEADBEATER.
> 
> Now Mr. Leadbeater does write towards the end of this letter extract:
> 
> "Of course this true explanation is useless for outsiders."
> 
> But one must ask:  was this the TRUE explanation???  
> 
> Unless I am missing something here All this letter shows us is that 
> Mr. Leadbeater beleived this was the TRUE explanation.  And it would 
> appear that T. Subba Row was indeed telling Mr. Leadbeater this 
> explanation.  But I see nothing here to support the contention that 
> Mr. Leadbeater knew of his own personal direct knowledge all that is 
> said in this letter about HPB.
> 
> So the question is:  does T. Subba Row really know what he is talking 
> about?
> 
> And Anand, you may or may not be aware that at this very time H.P. 
> Blavatsky was indeed aware of what T. Subba Row was circulating about 
> her.
> 
> BELOW is what she said in a letter FROM THIS SAME TIME PERIOD.
> 
> The letter is dated "June 16th." 1885.  COMPARE this date with the 
> date of C.W. Leadbeater's letter.
> 
> HPB writes:
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Such as Subba Row -- uncompromising initiated Brahmins, will never 
> reveal -- even that which they are permitted to. They hate too much 
> Europeans for it. Has he [Subba Row] not gravely given out to Mr. and 
> Mrs. C.O. that I was henceforth "a shell deserted and abandoned by 
> the Masters?" When I took him for it to task, he answered: "You have 
> been guilty of the most terrible of crimes. You have given out 
> secrets of Occultism -- the most sacred and the most hidden. Rather 
> that you should be sacrificed than that which was never meant for 
> European minds. People had too much faith in you. It was time to 
> throw doubt into their minds. Otherwise they should have pumped out 
> of you all that you know." And he is now acting on that principle. 
> -------------------------------------------------------
> quoted from:
> http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/hpb-aps/bl-42.htm
> 
> I will add more later to what I have given above but will wait and 
> let you digest all of this and hopefully give your comments.
> 
> Daniel
> http://hpb.cc
>