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Re: Theos-World The book of Dzyân - A Trail

Aug 19, 2008 08:45 AM
by Morten Nymann Olesen

Blavatsky said, that the Jews with their Qabala had 4 of the 7 keys to the mystery.
Only in area of India at her time the initiates were in possesion of all the 7 keys.

M. Sufilight

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Cass Silva 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:13 AM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World The book of Dzyân - A Trail

  If the Jews based their teachings on the Book of Dzyan surely then there would have been no need for a Jesus to restructure their misinterpretation of the ancient teachings.  The jews only preceded the Christians by 2500 years, still leaving them over 10,000+ years   behind the Egyptians and Chaldeans, but still making their teachings relatively new.  For memory doesn't Blavatsky say that it was the Talmud or one of the earlier manuscripts that had maintained the ancient truths?

  --- On Tue, 19/8/08, Jacques Mahnich <> wrote:

  From: Jacques Mahnich <>
  Subject: Theos-World The book of Dzyân - A Trail
  Received: Tuesday, 19 August, 2008, 6:22 AM

  --- In theos-talk@yahoogro, "Frank Reitemeyer" <dzyan@...> wrote:
  > Gershom Sholem writes that the Book of Dzyan is a pirate copy of
  Jewish holy books.

  To put the Frank quote in context, here is what Gershom Sholem wrote
  on the subject :

  "There can be little doubt in my opinion that the famous stanzas of
  the mysterious Book Dzyan on which Madame H.P. Blavatsky's magnum
  opus, The Secret Doctrine, is based owe something, both in title and
  content, to the pompous pages of the Zoharic writing called Sifra
  Di-Tseniutha. The first to advance this theory, without further proof,
  was L.A. Bosman, a Jewish Theosophist, in his booklet The Mysteries of
  Qabalah (1916) p. 31. This seems to me, indeed, the true "etymology"
  of the hitherto unexplained title. Madame Blavatsky has drawn heavily
  upon Knorr von Rosenroth's Kabbala Denudata (1677-1684), which
  contains (vol. II p. 347-385) a Latin translation of the Sifra
  Di-Tseniutha. The solemn and magniloquent style of these pages may well
  have impressed her susceptible mind. As a matter of fact, H.P.B.
  herself alludes to such a connection between the two "books" in the
  very first lines of Isis Unveiled (vol.I p.1) where she still refrains
  from mentioning the Book Dzyan by name. But the transcription used by
  her for the Aramaic title shows clearly what she had in mind. She says
  : "There exists somewhere in this wide world an old book . . . It is
  the only original copy now in existence. The most ancient Hebrew
  document on occult learning - the Siphra Dzeniuta - vwas compiled from
  it." The Book of Dzyan is therefore nothing but an occultistic
  hypostasy of the Zoharic title. This "bibliographical" connection
  between the fundamental writings of the modern and of Jewish Theosophy
  seems remarkable enough.

  On the subject (Siphra Dzeniouta), Eliphas Levi wrote in his "Livre
  des Splendeurs" : It is true that the Hebrews got a science that Saint
  Paul guessed without knowing it, and that Saint Jean was both hiding
  and revealing through the gigantic hieroglyphs from Apocalypse, mostly
  borrowed from Ezechiel prophecies. It exist a dark and marvelous book
  called the Zohar or "La Splendeur". This book immense and bigger than
  the Talmud is but the development of a theogony which name is the
  Siphra Dzeniuta.
  Eliphas Levi book "Le Livre des Splendeurs" is a commentary of the
  Siphra Dzeniuta by Schimeon Ben-Jochai.


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