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Theos-World Re: 4 Questions between Anand and Daniel

Aug 03, 2008 08:30 AM
by anandaam_11


> But the problem is Blavatsky rejects devotion to even Absolute. If 
you
> read quotations of Blavatsky given earlier by anandam, you find that
> Blavatsky says it is impossible to worship or pray to Absolute. This
> position is against Krishna's path of devotion.
> Best
> Anand Gholap
>

That is not what Blavatsky says. She "rejects the idea of a personal 
and extra-cosmic deity". She states that "occultists do not worship 
or offer prayers to them [the gods and devas] ... or pray to the 
Absolute, which, having no attributes, can have no ears to hear us." 

While occultists do not PRAY to the Absolute (Parabrahm) to intercede 
on their behalf or on the behalf of others - the latter being a 
philosophical absurdity whatever the religion, Madame Blavatsky and 
the Mahatmas do not rule out devotion to the highest, as seen in the 
following passage:

"The ever unknowable and incognizable Karana alone, the Causeless 
Cause of all causes, should have its shrine and altar on the holy and 
ever untrodden ground of our heart?invisible, intangible, 
unmentioned, save through "the still small voice" of our spiritual 
consciousness.  Those who worship before it, ought to do so in the 
silence and the sanctified solitude of their Souls*; making their 
spirit the sole mediator between them and the Universal Spirit, their 
good actions the only priests, and their sinful intentions the only 
visible and objective sacrificial victims to the Presence." (Secret 
Doctrine, vol one, p280) 

To put this passage into context the full passage is given below - 
again demonstrating that Madame Blavatsky and the Mahatmas do not 
believe in an extra-cosmic personal God who is a creator of the 
universe.

regards
Murthy

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(1) The Secret Doctrine teaches no Atheism, except in the Hindu sense 
of the word nastika, or the rejection of idols, including every 
anthropomorphic god.  In this sense every Occultist is a Nastika.
(2) It admits a Logos or a collective "Creator" of the Universe; a 
Demi- urgos?in the sense implied when one speaks of an "Architect" as 
the "Creator" of an edifice, whereas that Architect has never touched 
one stone of it, but, while furnishing the plan, left all the manual 
labour to the masons; in our case the plan was furnished by the 
Ideation of the Universe, and the constructive labour was left to the 
Hosts of intelligent Powers and Forces.  But that Demiurgos is no 
personal deity,?i.e., an imperfect extra-cosmic god,?but only the 
aggregate of the Dhyan-Chohans and the other forces.
As to the latter?
(3) They are dual in their character; being composed of (a) the 
irrational brute energy, inherent in matter, and (b) the intelligent 
soul or cosmic consciousness which directs and guides that energy, 
and which is the Dhyan-Chohanic thought reflecting the Ideation of 
the 
Universal mind.  This results in a perpetual series of physical 
manifestations and moral effects on Earth, during manvantaric 
periods, the whole being subservient to Karma.  As that process is 
not always 
perfect; and since, however many proofs it may exhibit of a guiding 
intelligence behind the veil, it still shows gaps and flaws, and even 
results very often in evident failures?therefore, neither the 
collective Host (Demiurgos), nor any of the working powers 
individually, are proper subjects for divine honours or worship. All 
are entitled to the grateful reverence of Humanity, however, and man 
ought to be ever striving to help the divine evolution of Ideas, by 
becoming to the best of his ability a co-worker with nature in the 
cyclic task.  The ever unknowable and incognizable Karana alone, the 
Causeless Cause of all causes, should have its shrine and altar on 
the holy and ever untrodden ground of our heart?invisible, 
intangible, 
unmentioned, save through "the still small voice" of our spiritual 
consciousness.  Those who worship before it, ought to do so in the 
silence and the sanctified solitude of their Souls*; making their 
spirit the sole mediator between them and the Universal Spirit, their 
good actions the only priests, and their sinful intentions the only 
visible and objective sacrificial victims to the Presence.  (See Part 
II., "On the Hidden Deity.")  

page 279-280, vol one, Secret Doctrine.





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