Theos-World Re: 4 Questions between Anand and Daniel
Aug 03, 2008 08:30 AM
by anandaam_11
> But the problem is Blavatsky rejects devotion to even Absolute. If
you
> read quotations of Blavatsky given earlier by anandam, you find that
> Blavatsky says it is impossible to worship or pray to Absolute. This
> position is against Krishna's path of devotion.
> Best
> Anand Gholap
>
That is not what Blavatsky says. She "rejects the idea of a personal
and extra-cosmic deity". She states that "occultists do not worship
or offer prayers to them [the gods and devas] ... or pray to the
Absolute, which, having no attributes, can have no ears to hear us."
While occultists do not PRAY to the Absolute (Parabrahm) to intercede
on their behalf or on the behalf of others - the latter being a
philosophical absurdity whatever the religion, Madame Blavatsky and
the Mahatmas do not rule out devotion to the highest, as seen in the
following passage:
"The ever unknowable and incognizable Karana alone, the Causeless
Cause of all causes, should have its shrine and altar on the holy and
ever untrodden ground of our heart?invisible, intangible,
unmentioned, save through "the still small voice" of our spiritual
consciousness. Those who worship before it, ought to do so in the
silence and the sanctified solitude of their Souls*; making their
spirit the sole mediator between them and the Universal Spirit, their
good actions the only priests, and their sinful intentions the only
visible and objective sacrificial victims to the Presence." (Secret
Doctrine, vol one, p280)
To put this passage into context the full passage is given below -
again demonstrating that Madame Blavatsky and the Mahatmas do not
believe in an extra-cosmic personal God who is a creator of the
universe.
regards
Murthy
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(1) The Secret Doctrine teaches no Atheism, except in the Hindu sense
of the word nastika, or the rejection of idols, including every
anthropomorphic god. In this sense every Occultist is a Nastika.
(2) It admits a Logos or a collective "Creator" of the Universe; a
Demi- urgos?in the sense implied when one speaks of an "Architect" as
the "Creator" of an edifice, whereas that Architect has never touched
one stone of it, but, while furnishing the plan, left all the manual
labour to the masons; in our case the plan was furnished by the
Ideation of the Universe, and the constructive labour was left to the
Hosts of intelligent Powers and Forces. But that Demiurgos is no
personal deity,?i.e., an imperfect extra-cosmic god,?but only the
aggregate of the Dhyan-Chohans and the other forces.
As to the latter?
(3) They are dual in their character; being composed of (a) the
irrational brute energy, inherent in matter, and (b) the intelligent
soul or cosmic consciousness which directs and guides that energy,
and which is the Dhyan-Chohanic thought reflecting the Ideation of
the
Universal mind. This results in a perpetual series of physical
manifestations and moral effects on Earth, during manvantaric
periods, the whole being subservient to Karma. As that process is
not always
perfect; and since, however many proofs it may exhibit of a guiding
intelligence behind the veil, it still shows gaps and flaws, and even
results very often in evident failures?therefore, neither the
collective Host (Demiurgos), nor any of the working powers
individually, are proper subjects for divine honours or worship. All
are entitled to the grateful reverence of Humanity, however, and man
ought to be ever striving to help the divine evolution of Ideas, by
becoming to the best of his ability a co-worker with nature in the
cyclic task. The ever unknowable and incognizable Karana alone, the
Causeless Cause of all causes, should have its shrine and altar on
the holy and ever untrodden ground of our heart?invisible,
intangible,
unmentioned, save through "the still small voice" of our spiritual
consciousness. Those who worship before it, ought to do so in the
silence and the sanctified solitude of their Souls*; making their
spirit the sole mediator between them and the Universal Spirit, their
good actions the only priests, and their sinful intentions the only
visible and objective sacrificial victims to the Presence. (See Part
II., "On the Hidden Deity.")
page 279-280, vol one, Secret Doctrine.
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