Theos-Talk Archives (July 2008 Message tt00417)

What does this thread have to do with the subject? I could get more 
about it from GdeP then in here. 

It reminds me of the time I went to the Manly P Hall library in 
Hollywood to research this subject and didn't find anything 
substantial about it in the stacks but I was approached by a library 
official who was discreetly probing around for the hillside killer 
who was on the loose at the time. 

He asked what I was looking for and I told him about my quest for 
info on Quantum Physics and occult science and he rattled off a list 
of relationships that immediately piqued my interest. Once he saw 
that my interest was genuine and I wasn't the serial killer he was 
looking for, he promptly left.

- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@...> wrote:
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> funny haha
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "Drpsionic@..." <Drpsionic@...>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, 29 July, 2008 4:04:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Quantum Physics
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> Quantum mechanics and Theosophy go perfectly together.? No one can 
make any sense of either of them.
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> Chuck the Heretic
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> http://www.geocitie s.com/c_cosimano 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo. com>
> To: Theosophy <theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com>
> Sent: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 6:57 pm
> Subject: Theos-World Quantum Physics
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> This is only an extract. full article can be viewed at site.
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> Cass
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> Quantum Physics
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> - Is this the gateway to the next Plane? 
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> By Geoff Harrod
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> A talk at the Brisbane Theosophical Society, May 2002 
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> http://home. iprimus.com. au/btheos/ articles/ GH-Quantum. htm
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> ?
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> I hope you don't expect me to explain all about Quantum Physics in 
45 minutes or so? What I want to do is show how scientific discovery 
today is heading into the margin between the physical world and the 
next realm of existence, perhaps what we refer to as the Planes in 
Theosophy. As it moves into this new territory, science is looking 
increasingly at questions formerly regarded as outside its ambit - 
the purpose of life, what is the life-force, what is the nature of 
God, if there is a God. I want to show that the antipathy toward 
science that has long been prevalent in the Theosophical Society, is 
completely outmoded. Science is a good ally for the occultist in the 
21st century. 
> 
> First, a bit of the history of science and the TS... The 
Theosophical Society was founded in the late 19th century, at a time 
when science had become smugly satisfied with its achievements - with 
some justification. It was confidant that it had sorted out all the 
laws that govern our world. But it was a totally materialistic, 
mechanistic view of our world, with no room for any concept of God, 
spirit, or life-force. It is no wonder our founders denounced science 
as it was. 
> 
> In the opposite camp, and poles apart, was the religious community, 
and in particular the Christian establishment. Remember, that before 
the Renaissance, the all-powerful Catholic Church forbade any attempt 
to find out how the world worked. That was God's province alone. So 
they exterminated anyone who persisted. A more likely reason was 
because they knew that their mediaeval dogmas would not stand 
investigation, and if even only a few basic points were to be proved 
wrong, the entire faith-system would crumble, as it now has, to a 
large extent. Meanwhile, fortunately, science had survived via the 
Islamic world. We must never forget the huge debt today's Christian 
world owes the Moslems, especially the Moors of Spain. 
> 
> Neither side seemed to be concerned that each other's view left 
some things unanswered. Where did life and consciousness fit in? 
Blavatsky and Olcott energetically sniped at both camps from their 
middle ground in no-man's land. They kept on trying to provoke 
science to broaden its scope and consider more than the strictly 
material, and to show that there must be some common ground between 
physical and spiritual topics. 
> 
> After Blavatsky and Olcott, Annie Besant turned the TS onto a quite 
different path, causing various groups to split off to pursue the 
original orientation. Annie Besant led a flurry of writing based on 
clairvoyant observation. Although such a method of investigation had 
value and interest, it lacked any sort of control or corroboration. 
Therefore, anyone inclined to rely upon it must do so with the same 
sort of blind faith that the Church demanded of its own notions. 
Rarely was there even a second opinion obtained from another 
clairvoyant! The observations were of great interest, whether true or 
not, but the method was far too open to mistake, delusion or fraud 
for science to take it seriously. The Church also rejected it, but 
for the dubious reason that it considered itself to have a monopoly 
on miracles and therefore it must all be either fraud or else the 
work of the Devil. 
> 
> Such was the influence of Besant and Leadbeater in the TS, and the 
degree of uncritical enthusiasm with which that those writings were 
accepted, that even today, any criticism of their statements is 
vigorously denounced by what might be called 'old guard' members in 
some lodges. Fortunately that is not a big issue here in Brisbane. It 
seems that people liked the definite statements and clear answers 
those writings provided, rather than the deep and confusing 
philosophy of the earlier writings. Annie Besant's legacy, whether 
her intention or not, was in effect the establishment of a dogma for 
this society - a society that had been founded as anti-dogma. 
> 
> So part of the original purpose of the Theosophical Society was 
discarded and it was left to science to evolve in its own way. 
Fortunately, science did change its outlook. Quite possibly, the 
introduction of Eastern metaphysical ideas to the West, to which the 
TS made a major contribution, may have influenced the thinking of 
scientists to make it possible for them to break away from a purely 
mechanistic outlook. 
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