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Re: Theos-World Quantum Physics

Jul 29, 2008 11:09 AM
by Morten Nymann Olesen

My views are:

Interesting thoughts Jacques.

Jacques wrote:
"Scientific minds do not look after such a ghost. "

Here I will have to disagree somewhat. I would indeed say that many a Scientific minds look after the Truth. And they seek it out.
Yet, sadly almost just as many are not looking for the Truth today. At least not officially. And that is our Karma.

In USA Congress are still giving money to make further research into Paraspychology. They do so because they think it is more likely, that Parapsychology is a REALITY than it is not.  And iun UK, China, Russia, Netherland, France and other countries the same science is persued under other names. 

People in general do not know about this, because the various false Christian's and other bigots would rather that nobody learned the truth about this.

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The notoriuos Nasrudin and The Special Seed

Mullah Nasrudin gave spiritual instruction to his students in his apartment on Thursday evenings. Among those who came was a professor of comparative religions. The professor was very learned and in every way treated Mullah Nasrudin with great respect.

However, every time that the Mullah began to give some history about his teaching, the professor would correct the Mullah, filling in minute details and historical facts. Whenever Mulla Nasrudin would begin to tell a Sufi story, after the first line, the professor would begin to laugh and say, "This is a good one!"

After one such class Mullah Nasrudin thought to himself, "Why has this man come to me? He obviously is more knowledgeable about what I am going to say than I am and yet he comes here every week. He is more 
polite than all of the rest of my students put together and yet his input, interesting as it is, disrupts my teaching. Why has he come and what am I to do with him?"

While Mulla Nasrudin was contemplating this situation he was looking out of his window at a flower stand across the street and the thought to himself, "That?s it!"

Mullah Nasrudin invited the professor to come a little early for the next meeting. When the professor knocked at the door and when the Mullah answered it he asked, "Professor, would you mind doing me a favor?"

"Not at all," said the professor.

"Then please go across the street for me and buy me some flower seeds and whatever I might need to grow them," said the Mullah.

"Certainly!" said the professor and off he went.

Soon the professor returned with the flower seeds, a pot and everything needed to grow the flowers as Mullah Nasrudin had requested.

The Mullah opened the bag of seeds and spread them out on the table, "Ah!" he said, "This is the most beautiful of all my seeds. I would say that this one has the most potential so I am going to treat it in a very special way."

He showed the seed to the professor and said, "Isn?t it a lovely seed?"

"Yes," agreed the professor, "it is a very nice one."

"I have something very special that I want to do with it. Please plant the others in that pot," said Mullah Nasrudin as he went off to another room.

When he came back, the professor had just finished planting the other seeds. And Mullah Nasrudin asked the professor, "Professor, I grew up in a very arid area. There we do not waste our precious water just to grow things for their beauty and their interesting form so I am most inexperienced at growing things such as flowers. Do you suppose that you could stop by for a moment everyday to check on these flower seeds for me and take good care of them?"

"Yes, I would be happy to stop by for a moment on my way home from work. But what do you intend to do with that other seed?" asked the professor.

Mullah Nasrudin had a book of scriptures in his hand which he placed on the table. When he opened the book there was the seed that he had kept apart from the others. He lovingly stroked the little seed with his fingers saying, "What a beautiful seed."

Then Mullah Nasrudin walked over to his kitchenette and got a funnel and a flashlight and then returned to the book on the table. He asked the professor to turn on the flashlight and shine its light onto the seed.

Then Mullah Nasrudin held the wide end of the funnel to his mouth and the narrow end of the funnel over the seed and began reciting from the scriptures.

The professor stood there holding the flashlight with a look of amusement on his face but said nothing.

When Mullah Nasrudin had finished he took the flashlight from the professor, thanked him and lead him to the door saying, "I'll see you tomorrow," and the professor left.

Day after day, the professor came to water the seeds and to hold the flashlight for the Mullah as he read scriptures into the funnel over the seed.

Soon the other seeds in the flower pot were sprouting and growing and before too many weeks, some were beginning to flower and all along Mullah Nasrudin put all of his attention on that one seed to which he had been reading and kept in a book of scriptures.

Then one day when the professor stopped by, the last of the seeds in the pot had bloomed.

Mullah Nasrudin looked at the flowers and then went over to the book where the seed was kept and inspected the seed very closely.

He picked up the seed and placed it in the professor's hand. "Look at this seed professor. Nothing seems to have happened. It is still as it was when we began. Surely, this seed is a thousand times more knowledgeable than all of the other seeds put together. I have read all of the words of Life to it, we have shined on it the light of intelligence and still it does not grow. What can have gone wrong?"

The professor looked at the seed and then at Mullah Nasrudin and tears started to stream down his face and fell onto the seed.

"I am this seed," said the professor, "all of this has been to open my heart and now, finally, I understand."

The professor closed his hand around the seed and wept. Mullah Nasrudin took the professor in his arms, held him and whispered into his ear, "You have just sprouted my beautiful seed."

M. Sufilight

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jacques Mahnich 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:11 PM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World Quantum Physics

  --- In, "Morten Nymann Olesen"
  <global-theosophy@...> wrote:
  > My views are:
  > ... The very fact that science is changing all the time proves its
  incapacity to investigate the ultimate and absolute truth. Some time
  ago scientists maintained that the atom cannot be broken, but recently
  they succeeded in breaking it. They are still ignorant about the
  realities of the pranic force behind the atom, which is the least of
  its components.

  Maybe an ultimate and absolute truth does not exist, or does not exist
  as we want it to be...idealistic.
  Scientific minds do not look after such a ghost. They have learned
  along the way, specially since the last century that what can be
  called "reality" is not static, they have realized there is no more
  border between matter and energy (event dark energy...), that our
  world (as far as we can perceived it) is a never-ending movement.
  The Standard Model is now very much challenged, and the next LHC
  (Large Hadron Collider) which is entering into service this quarter
  will bring new discoveries which may annihilate previous models, or
  better will give new basis for new hypothesis.
  At least, we should recognize that scientific minds (the true ones)
  have no issues in acknowledging their failures when new findings tear
  their model apart. One could have expected the same honesty in other

  An interesting development since the coming of the 70' scientific
  generation (F. Capra,...) is that they have stopped claiming (not all
  of them) to be able to explain everything with experiences and models,
  they became a little bit more modest.



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