Theos-Talk Archives (July 2008 Message tt00359)

Exactly.

I am not the same as when I was age 20.  At age 20, I would do war for my country,  But at my present age of 64, I do not want to do war for my country.  I have changed.  I do not support war, not even my country of America' wars.

  I do not support America's current wars overseas.

In American Air Force, I also worked on B-47 and B-52's loaded with Nukes.

At age 20 I would do Nuke war, by launching the Bombers with the Nukes, like in the Cuban Missile crisis.

I have faced thought form of Nuke war, while I worked on the bombers with the Nukes on them.


At my current age, of  64, I no longer could Nuke any other country or people.

It brothers me when people, some americans, talk of nuking Iran.  This is not funny to me and I do not support it.  I do not want my nation-state, America, to Nuke anyone--again. 

I worked on the bombers during the cuban missile crisis where we almost had World War 3.  Not funny, no, not at all.

I am willing to admit, even thro I am a American, that America is wrong many times.

Just because America has so many nukes and bombers and missiles, this does not make america right.

In fact, it  just might be, that America's  karma is coming now, to make adjustments. 

As an american, I still can see where America has done much wrong or harm in the world.  

Is there national Karma?


Henry B. Ellak







--- On Thu, 7/24/08, Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Cheers ! Theosophical Society succeeded in attaining it's object
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 6:44 PM
> What a horrifying story Henry.  My thinking is that the
> world has three great evils, religion, nationalism and
> patriotism.   How does one go about destroying an
> organization that uses its power to supply arms in order
> that one side can massacre the other, while those providing
> the arms are fooled into thinking that the act is noble!  
> Cass 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Henry B. Ellak <henrybellak@yahoo.com>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 July, 2008 11:13:04 AM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Cheers ! Theosophical Society
> succeeded in attaining it's object
> 
> 
> Hi Cass,
> Back in 1964, I as a flight engineer on a American C-130
> while in USAF, flew guns and ammo into the Congo, to
> Rhanda, across from the civil war in the old Beligan Congo.
> 
> I was in American Air Force, but this was a UN peace
> keeping mission.
> Who did I fly for, the american air force or the United
> Nations. 
> 
> The side we gave the guns and amno to, took 30 prisoners
> and ate 28 of them
> on the day we gave them the guns and amno. Real UN Peace!
> 
> The UN gave canibals guns and ammo. I was there, I did
> this.
> 
> Guess where we pick up the Guns and Amno. Beligium, of
> course.
> 
> Henry B.Ellak
> 
> --- On Tue, 7/22/08, Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo.
> com> wrote:
> 
> > From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo. com>
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Cheers ! Theosophical Society
> succeeded in attaining it's object
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 6:02 PM
> > No you are right Henry, the UN doesn't have its
> own army
> > and we, the people of the world, should do everything
> we can
> > to ensure they never get one.  The UN goes into all
> wars
> > with a biased political opinion and because of this I
> > believe are not peace keeping missions.
> > Cass
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Henry B. Ellak <henrybellak@ yahoo.com>
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, 23 July, 2008 1:31:36 AM
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Cheers ! Theosophical Society
> > succeeded in attaining it's object
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Re.
> > > Before United Nations, there was another
> organization
> > of
> > > similar
> > > nature called League of Nations. 
> > 
> > Henry interjects,
> > Of course, America never joined and was never a member
> of
> > the League of Nations.
> > 
> > Related, where Has the United Nations actually
> prevented a
> > war, or stopped a war anyway. Isn't the United
> Nations
> > a big Joke, who actually believes that the United
> Nations
> > prevents war or stops war?
> > Does the U. N. even hav a army of its own, as opposed
> to
> > using member nations armies?
> > 
> > Henry B.Ellak
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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