Theos-Talk Archives (July 2008 Message tt00029)

To all readers

My views are:

This is an e-mailed response:


It depends on how you define the word "God".
There are the God of the ordinary Jews, the God of the ordinary Christians etc. Those we call inferior.

MASTER KH said:
"Therefore, we DENY God both as philosophers and AS
BUDDHISTS. We know there are planetary and other spiritual lives, and
we know there is in our system NO SUCH THING AS GOD, EITHER
PERSONAL OR IMPERSONAL. Parabrahm is not a God, but absolute
immutable law, and Iswar is the effect of Avidya and Maya, ignorance
based upon the great delusion. The word "God" was invented to
designate the unknown cause of those effects which man has either
admired or dreaded without understanding them, and SINCE WE CLAIM
AND THAT WE ARE ABLE TO PROVE WHAT WE CLAIM-i.e. the
knowledge of that cause and causes we are in a position to maintain
THERE IS NO God OR Gods BEHIND THEM." ...(Master KH)http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/mahatma/ml-10.htm

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>From The Secret Doctrine by H. P. Blavatsky:
"An Omnipresent, Eternal, Boundless, and Immutable PRINCIPLE on which all speculation is impossible, since it transcends the power of human conception and could only be dwarfed by any human expression or similitude. It is beyond the range and reach of thought -- in the words of Mandukya, "unthinkable and unspeakable."

To render these ideas clearer to the general reader, let him set out with the postulate that there is one absolute Reality which antecedes all manifested, conditioned, being. This Infinite and Eternal Cause -- dimly formulated in the "Unconscious" and "Unknowable" of current European philosophy -- is the rootless root of "all that was, is, or ever shall be." It is of course devoid of all attributes and is essentially without any relation to manifested, finite Being. It is "Be-ness" rather than Being (in Sanskrit, Sat), and is beyond all thought or speculation."
(The Secret Doctrine, vol. 1, p. 14)


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There is no RELIGION higher than TRUTH.
Truth is shown everywhere in cosmos - as illusorical reality. What is truth ?
Truth is God as ParaBrahman - Neti Neti (ie. Not this, Not that)...¨ParaBrahman is defined as being beyond thoughts.Parabrahman is not this nor that. Parabrahman is not the same as Jesus or Mary as in 
the ordinary Christian world view. People often see what the want to see.Some persons are going around every day looking over their own shoulders, assuming 
each and every bypasser to be an alien from Mars in disguise.  It is also a fact, that People sometimes dream 
about what their mind is occupied with.We can in fact provoke the dreams we 
ourselves want. Which not seldom is dreams we do not spiritually 
need.
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H. P. Blavatsky said:
"Too many already wear their faith, truly, as Shakespeare puts it, "but as the fashion of his hat," ever changing "with the next block." Moreover, the very raison d'être of the Theosophical Society was, from its beginning, to utter a loud protest and lead an open warfare against dogma or any belief based upon blind faith."
http://www.blavatsky.net/blavatsky/arts/IsTheosophyAReligion.htm




M. Sufilight



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: revigani 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 10:10 AM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World Election results


  What is the view of Theosophy on the existence of God?
   
  Rev. Igani

  --- On Wed, 7/2/08, Anand <AnandGholap@gmail.com> wrote:

  From: Anand <AnandGholap@gmail.com>
  Subject: Re: Theos-World Election results
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 4:42 AM

  --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "prmoliveira" <prmoliveira@ ...> wrote:
  >
  > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "Anand" <AnandGholap@ > wrote:
  > 
  > 
  > > > "Be what he may, once that a student abandons the old and trodden 
  > > > highway of routine, and enters upon the solitary path of 
  > independent 
  > > > thought--Godward --he is a Theosophist; an original thinker, a 
  > seeker 
  > > > after the eternal truth with "an inspiration of his own" to solve 
  > the 
  > > > universal problems." (The Theosophist, October 1879)
  > 
  > 
  > > HPB uses word "independent thought -Godward" It implies belief of 
  > HPB
  > > in the existence of God. 
  > > 
  > > Anand Gholap
  > 
  > Anand,
  > 
  > She is describing her view of what a Theosophist is: "an original 
  > thinker, a seeker after the eternal truth with "an inspiration of his 
  > own" to solve the universal problems." 
  > 
  > The question could be asked: what is the view about the "God 
  > question" of someone who "enters upon the solitary path of 
  > independent thought"?
  > 
  > As I see it, HPB is describing the qualities of a mind and 
  > consciousness that can indeed inquire into life's deeper aspects. Her 
  > approach, as usual, is not belief-based but inquiry-based. 
  > 

  Pedro,

  When HPB said " independent thought--Godward ", it means she accepted
  that God exists. This acceptance can be a belief or it can be because
  of direct experience of God. She does not say here whether her
  acceptance is because on belief or experience or inquiry. But the
  important thing here is HPB accepts existence of God. 

  Anand Gholap

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