Re: Theos-World Re: Is Liberal Catholic Church promoting anti-muslim views?
Jun 17, 2008 08:34 AM
by Morten Nymann Olesen
Dear Cass
>From my heart: May you recover from your flu very soon.
M. Sufilight
----- Original Message -----
From: Cass Silva
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 2:42 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Is Liberal Catholic Church promoting anti-muslim views?
Morten,
Your voice on this little forum and HPB's voice to the world are not comparable. If you feel you are stepping in the shoes of HPB then go ahead, but I believe that most of the work has been done in regard to Christianity with half the world turning secular. Seems to me the only bastion of christianity is in the US, The Phillipines and Italy. I believe within 50 years christianity will be no more, well not the version that is currently promoted. I am full of the flu at the moment and can barely think so will leave it there.
Cass
----- Original Message ----
From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk>
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:55:21 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Is Liberal Catholic Church promoting anti-muslim views?
My views are:
Where did you hide that "dead Jesuit horse" of yours? Why are you claiming that it is a dead horse?
Repetition of facts are an important part of the theosophical teachings.
Forums like this one often operates as a tribe of savages. There is a hierarchy being build.
And those who is not in agreement with the majority are often being thrown at the volwes. Cast out so to speak.
I think some persons like this game:
I know better than you, although I will not admit that my views upon Christianity are stupid and ignorant - And that they in secret are very non-theosophical.
Assumptions is one thing, knowledge is another.
Theosophical teachers through the ages have never been tired of repeatedly pointing out the facts about the narrowminded Christian views, which are floating around in a great number of persons who calls themselves wise and even theosophists.
Yet it is not even today difficult to find theosophist who find the Bible and the New Testament so very important despite the Bible is filled with mistranslations and errors in each verse.
HPB said in a newspaper article, that "the latest international revision of the Bible-that infallible and revealed Word of God!-reveals 64,000 mistranslations and other mistakes," -
(H. P. Blavatsky's article "NOT A CHRISTIAN"! , written 25. Feb. 1879.)
H.P. Blavatsky wrote:
"...I deny in toto the Christ invented by the Church, as well as all the doctrines, all the interpretations, and all the dogmas, ancient and modern, concerning that personage... "
(H.P. Blavatsky: Collected Writings, Vol. IX, page 216).
H. P. Blavatsky said:
"The Society founded to remedy the glaring evils of Christianity, to shun bigotry and intolerance, cant and superstition and to cultivate real universal love extending even to the dumb brute".
(The Collected Writings of H. P. Blavatsky, vol. 7, p.246)
Master KH wrote in a Mahatma Letter:
For the opposition represents enormous vested interests, and they have enthusiastic help from the Dugpas -- in Bhootan and the Vatican!
(Here is all of Mahtama Letter, No. 55. Dugpas are the same as selfish Magicians.)
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H. P. Blavatsky words and Master KH's words not valid anymore?
And if not, - how can we as Seekers know about this?
M. Sufilight
----- Original Message -----
From: Drpsionic@aol. com
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Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Is Liberal Catholic Church promoting anti-muslim views?
There is a point where the prophetic voice becomes a broken record.? Repeating the same thing over and over again only causes people to change the channel.? The Jesuits are a dead horse and beating them serves little further purpose except to make one look very cruel.
Chuck the Heretic
http://www.geocitie s.com/c_cosimano
-----Original Message-----
From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo. com>
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 7:41 pm
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Is Liberal Catholic Church promoting anti-muslim views?
One can only 'eat' so much of the same before you begin to feel nausea.? I think it is a little pompous of you to think you and the TS are?leading the band for the future religion/philosophy .? You had better get ready to explain your hatred for the Jesuits, the LCC, the RCC etc.? HPB took calculated pokes at them, you it seems want to poke their eyes out!? There is no love lost between any student of HPB and these organizations but to continue to tirade against them serves no purpose other than to satisfy your own ego.
Cass
----- Original Message ----
From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk>
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 6:37:20 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Is Liberal Catholic Church promoting anti-muslim views?
If both of you are bored, why do you not teach?
Start your own thread. You can call it "One Heretic joke a day - Keeps the Chuck doctor away" :-)
Try to read this one more time
http://www.theosoph y.com/theos- talk/200307/ tt00073.html
When you are bored it is because you want something when it is not due.
The proper attitiude is not to be bored to avoid being bored and to teach.
You "bored-folks" are sometimes sounding like a baby crying: I want to be feed, but not now, and not with that food I want some candy, and I want it now. And when It cannot get the candy with all its dangerous colorful contents - It want something else....And like a monkey the thought of the baby jumps from one issue to another.
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Theosophy is the cornerstone of the future religious-philosoph y to come for all humanity.
The Liberal Catholic Chucrh is a relic, which is decaying. And if some of the members at this place is not capeable of understanding this, we might do well in helping them along. Am I right?
M. Sufilight
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From: Drpsionic@aol. com
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Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Is Liberal Catholic Church promoting anti-muslim views?
You aren't the only one!
Who cares?
Chuck the Heretic
http://www.geocitie s.com/c_cosimano
-----Original Message-----
From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@ yahoo. com>
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 8:23 pm
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Is Liberal Catholic Church promoting anti-muslim views?
I am totally bored witless with these incessant circular discussions which have nada to do with the study of theosophy
Cass
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From: Konstantin Zaitzev <kay_ziatz@yahoo. com>
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 6:19:57 AM
Subject: Theos-World Re: Is Liberal Catholic Church promoting anti-muslim views?
--- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen"
<global-theosophy@ ...> wrote:
> To emphasize Christian vocabulary and to use the name Liberal
> Catholic Church is not quite theosophical in nature if you ask me.
> West, they have a great tendency to - indirectly - promote the view
> among the literal readers, that they are anti-muslim in nature. And
Your accusations are based totally on unproven assumption. It is very
irresponsile, and maybe there are much more "black magic" in it than
in all catholic church.
> Prove it to anyone I can not.
Why should I? You've invented nonsense, or, to say more frankly,
circulated lie, and being unable to prove it, propose me to do it!
If there are jesuits, in the sense in which HPB used that word, you
are probably one of the greatest of them!
It's their way to circulate lies: to put it in a form of a question,
exactly as you did: "I wonder, whether LCC is promoting anti-muslim
views?" It helps to escape responsibility if lie will be disclosed:
I've just put a question...
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen"
> <global-theosophy@ > wrote:
>
> > Sometimes I wonder whether C. W. Leadbeater's Liberal Catholic
> > Church and its followers was and is promoting anti-muslim views?
>
> Your accusations are still not proven. The quotations from H.P.B.
> by no means prove that LCC is promoting anti-muslim views.
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