Theos-Talk Archives (June 2008 Message tt00150)

My  views are:

Anand wrote:
"I think HPB was not referring Avatar, she
was just referring a person who would continue work in Theosophical
tradition."

Yes agreed.
But we will have to know the truth about that person before be can conclude anything about it.
And HPB also said quite important, that the one coming would be - far better fitted - than herself.


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HPB said about the Avatar in The Screet Doctrine:
"This, he has made in his own image. In order to progress upwards and homewards, the "God" has now to ascend the weary uphill path of the Golgotha of Life. It is the martyrdom of self-conscious existence. Like Visvakarman he has to sacrifice himself to himself in order to redeem all creatures, to resurrect from the many into the One Life. Then he ascends into heaven indeed; where, plunged into the incomprehensible absolute Being and Bliss of Paranirvana, he reigns unconditionally, and whence he will re-descend again at the next "coming," which one portion of humanity expects in its dead-letter sense as the second advent, and the other as the last "Kalki Avatar.""



M. Sufilight

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Anand 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 8:37 AM
  Subject: Theos-World Re: Love between J. Krishnamurti and Mrs. Rosalind Rajagopal


  --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen"
  <global-theosophy@...> wrote:
  >
  > Ooh. 
  > In one of the Hislop books he is said to be 1.51 centimeters. 
  > Well most of the time, that is.
  > 
  > He himself have stated several times, that he is the Avatar of the
  Age, and the only one.
  > He has also stated, that he sometimes is showing himself in other
  forms. One time he came as 4-6 persons in a family to visit another
  family member. The 4-6 family members had died a few days before the
  incident. At other times he visit people in a female version looking
  the same as in the video. Sometimes he changes his look, so that
  people are seeing a blue-skinned person, who looks like Krishna.
  > 
  > Sathya Sai Baba
  > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sathya_Sai_Baba
  > 
  > 
  > "How will you answer questions such as "Is there God"? Where is God
  and where is He to be seen?
  > 
  > The question is, "Is there God or is there no God"? The fact that
  the word God is contained in the question asked, namely, "Is there
  God", is proof that there is God. If there is no 'God', then the word
  'God' would not have come into existence at all. Can anyone name
  something which does not exist?
  > 
  > Something which has no shape or existence cannot get a name. For
  argument sake some example like "Gagana Pushpa" meaning flower of sky
  may be given but in reality 'Gagana' or sky, 'Pushpa' or flower are in
  existence though not together but as separate entities.
  > 
  > God is everywhere and in everything. The whole creation is from Him
  and He is in the creation. So God is Omnipresent."
  > http://sss.vn.ua/guide_in.htm
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > But what is his relations to TS Adyar and what is TS Adyar's
  relations to him as Avatar and possibly the "Torchbearer"?
  > 

  In India there had been in every century some people who were advanced
  spiritually. Perhaps such spiritually advanced people always exist in
  other parts of the world also. In Bible such men are called as prophets. 
  These spiritually advanced people are I think tread different paths
  for spiritual development. So their methods of spiritual development
  are different. Some promote path of devotion, some promote meditation,
  some create their unique path or method and promote it. Even if some
  of them are genuine, the word Avatar is used by Besant and Leadbeater
  to refer teaching given by Bodhisattva himself or through some disciple. 
  When I read HPB's prophesy about Torch Bearer, I feel that she was not
  referring Avatar. I think she was referring to somebody in
  Theosophical tradition who would continue her work. World-Teacher word
  was used to refer Avatar. I think HPB was not referring Avatar, she
  was just referring a person who would continue work in Theosophical
  tradition.



   

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