Theos-Talk Archives (June 2008 Message tt00139)

To all readers and Zaitzev


My views are:

To emphasize Christian vocabulary and to use the name Liberal Catholic Church is not quite theosophical in nature if you ask me. And when an group or organisation is doing something like this - in these days with tensions between the Islamic Middle East and the Christian West, they have a great tendency to - indirectly - promote the view among the literal readers, that they are anti-muslim in nature. And that they even use magic to justify their game.

Prove it to anyone I can not. In fact nothing can be proven about this, when you talk with a Jesuit.



Try to read the following carefully...and tell me why you think, that the Dark Sciences have disappeared in the Catholic Church, and that The Liberal Catholic Church is without any infiltration from the Catholic Church and its false Christian's.



THEOSOPHY OR JESUITISM?
"Therefore, the present opportunity is taken to state, once for all, the views which Theosophists and Occultists entertain with regard to the Society of Jesus. At the same time, all those who are pursuing in life's great wilderness of vain evanescent pleasures and empty conventionalities an ideal worth living for, are offered the choice between the two now once more rising powers--the Alpha and the Omega at the two opposite ends of the realm of giddy, idle existence--THEOSOPHY and JESUITISM.

For, in the field of religious and intellectual pursuits, these two are the only luminaries--a good and an evil star, truly--glimmering once more from behind the mists of the Past, and ascending on the horizon of mental activities. They are the only two powers capable in the present day of extricating one thirsty for intellectual life from the clammy slush of the stagnant pool known as Modern Society, so crystallized in its cant, so dreary and monotonous in its squirrel-like motion around the wheel of fashion. Theosophy and Jesuitism are the two opposite poles, one far above, the other far below even that stagnant marsh. Both offer power--one to the spiritual, the other to the psychic and intellectual Ego in man. The former is "the wisdom that is from above . . . pure, peaceable, gentle . . . full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy," while the latter is "the wisdom that descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, DEVILISH."3 One is the power of Light, the other that of Darkness. . . ."

"It is vain to argue and claim a difference between Jesuitism and Roman Catholicism proper, for the latter is now sucked into and inseparably amalgamated with the former. We have public assurance for it in the pastoral of 1876 by the Bishop of Cambrai. "Clericalism, Ultramontanism and Jesuitism are one and the same thing--that is to say, Roman Catholicism--and the distinctions between them have been created by the enemies of religion," says the "Pastoral." "There was a time," adds Monseigneur the Cardinal, "when a certain theological opinion was commonly professed in France concerning the authority of the Pope. . . . It was restricted to our nation, and was of recent origin. The civil power during a century and a half imposed official instruction. Those who professed these opinions were called Gallicans, and those who protested were called Ultramontanes, because they had their doctrinal centre beyond the Alps, at Rome. Today the distinction between the two schools is no longer admissible. Theological Gallicanism can no longer exist, since this opinion has ceased to be tolerated by the Church. It has been solemnly condemned, past all return, by the Ocumenical Council of the Vatican. ONE CANNOT NOW BE A CATHOLIC WITHOUT BEING ULTRAMONTANE--AND JESUIT."
http://www.blavatsky.net/blavatsky/arts/TheosophyOrJesuitism.htm


Jesuits are also known as false Christians.


H. P. Blavatsky wrote about the plot of the Jesuits 
". . . . . It would be well perhaps, if the Jesuits contented themselves with making dupes of Freemasons and opposing the Theosophists and Occultists using for it the Protestant clergy as "cat's paw." But their plottings have a much wider scope, and embrace a minuteness of detail and care of which the world in general has no idea. Everything is done by them to bring the mass of mankind again to the state of passive ignorance which they well know is the only one which can help them to the consummation of their purpose of Universal Despotism." 
(from THE LETTERS OF H. P. BLAVATSKY to A. P. SINNETT and OTHER MISCELLANEOUS LETTERS TRANSCRIBED, COMPILED, AND WITH AN INTRODUCTION By A. T. BARKER. First Published 1925)



Master KH wrote in a Mahatma Letter:
For the opposition represents enormous vested interests, and they have enthusiastic help from the Dugpas -- in Bhootan and the Vatican!
(Here is all of Mahtama Letter, No. 55. Dugpas are the same as selfish Magicians.)


H. P. Blavatsky said:
"Too many already wear their faith, truly, as Shakespeare puts it, "but as the fashion of his hat," ever changing "with the next block." Moreover, the very raison d'être of the Theosophical Society was, from its beginning, to utter a loud protest and lead an open warfare against dogma or any belief based upon blind faith."
http://www.blavatsky.net/blavatsky/arts/IsTheosophyAReligion.htm


So now everyone are saying that The Liberal Catholic Chruch is truely without any infiltration of Jesuits and false magical Christians?


And that those silly dogmatic Hats they are wearing are the ultimate theosophical doctrine?



M. Sufilight


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Konstantin Zaitzev 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 9:29 PM
  Subject: Theos-World Re: Is Liberal Catholic Church promoting anti-muslim views?


  --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Morten Nymann Olesen" 
  <global-theosophy@...> wrote:

  > Sometimes I wonder whether C. W. Leadbeater's Liberal Catholic
  > Church and its followers was and is promoting anti-muslim views?

  Your accusations are still not proven. The quotations from H.P.B. by 
  no means prove that LCC is promoting anti-muslim views.



   

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