Theos-Talk Archives (June 2008 Message tt00065)

>From what I have read, it has to be voluntary on the part of the overshadowed.  Somehow the body of the overshadowed is watched over by Initiates (perhaps the real use of the Pyramids) while the world teacher works through the body of the overshadowed, which in Jesus case, seems to be for a period of 3 years.  HPB has clouded the issue and I am still in a fog about whether or not the Jesus or the Nazarene actually existed or is a work of fiction based on the Life of Apollonius of Tyana.
 
Cass 

--- On Wed, 6/4/08, Antonio/Tony None <spirit777child@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

From: Antonio/Tony None <spirit777child@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Theos-World Geoffrey Hodson on Krishnamurti's Maitreya claim
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, June 4, 2008, 6:19 AM






Ok and to further my question, this overshadowing, is it a one off thing so when it happens the man it happens to will be totally transformed without prior knowledge or will it happen in stages growing in strenght?

Please
Curiosty and all lol

Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk> wrote: We know both can be said to be the truth.

M. Sufilight

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Antonio/Tony None 
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Geoffrey Hodson on Krishnamurti' s Maitreya claim

Hi just our of interest this overshadowing that takes place, does the man invite the energy or does the energy choose the man? Just curious.

Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk> wrote: To all readers

My views are:

In the following we learn that Geoffrey Hodson claimed that J. Krishnamurti stated - SEVERAL TIMES - that he was the Maitreya - World Teacher. What more do you want?

AN APPRECIATION OF C. W. LEADBEATER By Geoffrey Hodson
"As I have elsewhere written, I attended several of the Star Camps in Holland and
was present when there was evidence of remarkable, if brief, supernormal
manifestations. On more than one occasion some two thousand people from many
parts of the world were gathered at Ommen to hear Krishnamurti. Each evening, all
were seated in concentric circles round a large camp fire. Krishnamurti would arrive,
take his place for a time, and then rise and apply a torch to the camp fire. As the
flames arose against the evening sky he would chant a mantram to the god Agni, and
return to his seat. Thereafter he would begin to speak, and on more than one occasion
a noticeable change took place in him. His voice altered and his hitherto rather
iconoclastic utterances gave way to a wonderful tenderness of expression and thought
which induced in those present an elevation of consciousness. The Talks were
followed by prolonged meditative silences. Many of those present, myself among
them, bore testimony to the sense of divine peace which had descended, to a
realization of the Presence of the Lord, and to an assurance that the prophecy had
begun to be fulfilled.
These phenomena occurred during some few successive years, the events being so
marked that Krishnamurti himself thereafter changed the Objects of the Order of the
Star in the East from, in effect, "To prepare for the coming of the Lord" to "To serve
the World Teacher now that He is in our midst." I, myself, more than once heard
Krishnamurti affirm that the great Teacher was now here and that the "Coming" had
actually occurred. Even now when he is speaking, with others I discern a spiritual
influence emanating from him, as if a great Being were still using him as a vehicle.
This, however, does not constitute a complete fulfillment of the original prophecy. "
www.theosophical. org/resources/ articles/ AppreciationofCW L.pdf (written around 1965)M. Sufilight

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