Theos-Talk Archives (June 2008 Message tt00061)

Antonio,
   The White Horse indicated the "Vehicle" of the presenceing of Deity. Different traditions all indicate sameness each in their own robe or clothe peculiar to each culture an it's idiosyncratic mindstream of imagery that is an expression. of the deep heart felt tradition they hold dear and cherish. Because the horse (vehicle) is White it indicates highest spiritual purity and proximity to intimate expedient means of the Deity. The Book of Revelations characterizes the same as the Hindu, Buddhist, Zoroastrian, Mandaean, and others. In the Hindu there are four Ages composing a great cycle which are perpetual in terms of the expansion of the consciousness of the Absolute untill the full Manvantaric Cycle is complete.. The last Age  runs it's course and the dissolution of the projected creation then resolves back into the sameness of Deity or the Absolute, for this reason the words "Upon the consummation of the Ages is found in both Hindu and Christian Canon along with others. It is i
ntimate with the principle of the Christ Consciousness because the Purush is also the Vehicle of the Transcendental Principle of the Christ who is told in Revelations will be seen riding upon the White Cloud upon his return. this conveys again Christ Transcendental Principle which upon the Consummation of the Ages is the Purush and by this reason all the emmitted souls ( Monads) which in reality are none but the units of awareness of the Absolute are again returned to Original Transcendental Nature of Be-ness and rest on the bosom of the ONE Father. So, my perception is no, the "antichrist" as used in western culture has no relation or function here. The Purush is the Substrate of the projected creation and I believe is why the Buddha proffers the folded White clothe on his left arm. When one may have a turiya, samadhi or moment of transcendental unity of illumination and obtain direct first person awareness of the reality of the Purush substrate they can experience a moment of Hom
e.

Regards,
John 




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From: Antonio/Tony None <spirit777child@yahoo.co.uk> 
are you talking of the white horse of revelations? I know some beleive he will be the antichrist. But i think the energy that is maitryea is only here as a build up of karmic forces. Almost like the explosion of the volcano. Once his energies are released i feel it will usher in a new age. but thats just my opinion.

Augoeides-222@comcast.net wrote: Anton,
I mostly agree with your position reserving Maitreya's freedom to do as Maitreya pleases of course. I have always held a view that Maitreya is the last Avatar of the Avatar Cycle and there fore is the Kalki Avatar who appears on the White Horse as his vehicle ( the Vehicle (horse) is the Purush into which creation is returned upon the consummation of the ages). i could of course be in error but thats my view. Krishnamurti also used the term "My Beloved" which had context of his Highest Self and curiously is also a favorite eponym of the Sufi.
Regards, John

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From: Antonio/Tony None <spirit777child@yahoo.co.uk> 
I see. Well for what its worth i dont think maitreya has revealed himself to anyone yet not even bemjamin creme. So only time will tell eh?

anton

Cass Silva <silva_cass@yahoo.com> wrote: My personal belief is that Krishnamurti was "schooled" by Besant/leadbeater into believeing that this was his 'role' in life.&nbsp; When he reached maturity, he chose, not to dream others dreams for him.&nbsp; Wasn't Jesus, as a Master, warned that the time was not yet right?&nbsp; Perhaps he should have listened, look what happened.
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Cass

--- On Mon, 6/2/08, Antonio/Tony None &lt;spirit777child@yahoo.co.uk&gt; wrote:

From: Antonio/Tony None &lt;spirit777child@yahoo.co.uk&gt;
Subject: Re: Theos-World Geoffrey Hodson on Krishnamurti's Maitreya claim
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, June 2, 2008, 5:12 AM

Hi just our of interest this overshadowing that takes place, does the man invite the energy or does the energy choose the man? Just curious.

Morten Nymann Olesen &lt;global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk&gt; wrote: To all readers

My views are:

In the following we learn that Geoffrey Hodson claimed that J. Krishnamurti stated - SEVERAL TIMES - that he was the Maitreya - World Teacher. What more do you want?

AN APPRECIATION OF C. W. LEADBEATER By Geoffrey Hodson
"As I have elsewhere written, I attended several of the Star Camps in Holland and
was present when there was evidence of remarkable, if brief, supernormal
manifestations. On more than one occasion some two thousand people from many
parts of the world were gathered at Ommen to hear Krishnamurti. Each evening, all
were seated in concentric circles round a large camp fire. Krishnamurti would arrive,
take his place for a time, and then rise and apply a torch to the camp fire. As the
flames arose against the evening sky he would chant a mantram to the god Agni, and
return to his seat. Thereafter he would begin to speak, and on more than one occasion
a noticeable change took place in him. His voice altered and his hitherto rather
iconoclastic utterances gave way to a wonderful tenderness of expression and thought
which induced in those present an elevation of consciousness. The Talks were
followed by prolonged meditative silences. Many of those present, myself among
them, bore testimony to the sense of divine peace which had descended, to a
realization of the Presence of the Lord, and to an assurance that the prophecy had
begun to be fulfilled.
These phenomena occurred during some few successive years, the events being so
marked that Krishnamurti himself thereafter changed the Objects of the Order of the
Star in the East from, in effect, "To prepare for the coming of the Lord" to "To serve
the World Teacher now that He is in our midst." I, myself, more than once heard
Krishnamurti affirm that the great Teacher was now here and that the "Coming" had
actually occurred. Even now when he is speaking, with others I discern a spiritual
influence emanating from him, as if a great Being were still using him as a vehicle.
This, however, does not constitute a complete fulfillment of the original prophecy. "
www.theosophical. org/resources/ articles/ AppreciationofCW L.pdf (written around 1965)M. Sufilight

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