Theos-Talk Archives (June 2008 Message tt00054)

Thanks for your reply,

What i meant by prior knowledge is if it occurs will the person know whats going on?

The reason i ask is because i believe i have been overshadowed 3 times since i was 13 and each time it grows in strenght, i am worried as if it happens again it could actually take over me completely.

Ant.

Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> wrote:                             My knowledge says:
 Both options occurs. But being "totally transformed without prior knowledge" depends on how you you define "without prior knowledge".
 
 Basically, what I am telling you, is to not worry so much.
 Why did you ask the questions?
 
 ParaBrahman is beyond thought and time. ParaBrahman is always so very near. ParaBrahman is omnipresent ( present at alle times, - pst, present and future simultainously.) - As they say in the Quran: ParaBrahman (or Allah) is closer to you than your jugular vein.
 
 M. Sufilight
 
 ----- Original Message ----- 
   From: Antonio/Tony None 
   To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 10:19 PM
   Subject: Re: Theos-World Geoffrey Hodson on Krishnamurti's Maitreya claim
 
 Ok and to further my question, this overshadowing, is it a one off thing so when it happens the man it happens to will be totally transformed without prior knowledge or will it happen in stages growing in strenght?
 
 Please
   Curiosty and all lol
 
 Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> wrote: We know both can be said to be the truth.
 
 M. Sufilight
 
 ----- Original Message ----- 
   From: Antonio/Tony None 
   To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 9:12 PM
   Subject: Re: Theos-World Geoffrey Hodson on Krishnamurti's Maitreya claim
 
 Hi just our of interest this overshadowing that takes place, does the man invite the energy or does the energy choose the man? Just curious.
 
 Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> wrote: To all readers
 
 My views are:
 
 In the following we learn that Geoffrey Hodson claimed that J. Krishnamurti stated - SEVERAL TIMES - that he was the Maitreya - World Teacher. What more do you want?
 
 AN APPRECIATION OF C. W. LEADBEATER By Geoffrey Hodson
   "As I have elsewhere written, I attended several of the Star Camps in Holland and
   was present when there was evidence of remarkable, if brief, supernormal
   manifestations. On more than one occasion some two thousand people from many
   parts of the world were gathered at Ommen to hear Krishnamurti. Each evening, all
   were seated in concentric circles round a large camp fire. Krishnamurti would arrive,
   take his place for a time, and then rise and apply a torch to the camp fire. As the
   flames arose against the evening sky he would chant a mantram to the god Agni, and
   return to his seat. Thereafter he would begin to speak, and on more than one occasion
   a noticeable change took place in him. His voice altered and his hitherto rather
   iconoclastic utterances gave way to a wonderful tenderness of expression and thought
   which induced in those present an elevation of consciousness. The Talks were
   followed by prolonged meditative silences. Many of those present, myself among
   them, bore testimony to the sense of divine peace which had descended, to a
   realization of the Presence of the Lord, and to an assurance that the prophecy had
   begun to be fulfilled.
   These phenomena occurred during some few successive years, the events being so
   marked that Krishnamurti himself thereafter changed the Objects of the Order of the
   Star in the East from, in effect, "To prepare for the coming of the Lord" to "To serve
   the World Teacher now that He is in our midst." I, myself, more than once heard
   Krishnamurti affirm that the great Teacher was now here and that the "Coming" had
   actually occurred. Even now when he is speaking, with others I discern a spiritual
   influence emanating from him, as if a great Being were still using him as a vehicle.
   This, however, does not constitute a complete fulfillment of the original prophecy. "
   www.theosophical.org/resources/articles/AppreciationofCWL.pdf (written around 1965)M. Sufilight
 
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