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Re: Theos-World Re: Secret Doctrine Vol.3

May 21, 2008 06:01 PM
by Cass Silva

Still, my gut feeling tells me that something has been suppressed.

Richard Semock <> wrote:
          There are at least 2 versions of the SD, one is a single volume 
version with Cosmogenesis and Anthropogenesis including the stanzas 
of Dyzan in a single volume. Another is a 2-vol version with the 
above topics separated. 

I have owned both versions at various stages and currently have the 2-
vol set including Vol III which I ran across in a musty bookstore 
about 40 years ago.

--- In, Cass Silva <silva_cass@...> wrote:
> Apparently according to Tsarion, who is somehow linked to family 
Krishnamurti, he says that SD3 comments on politics, power and the 
practical. I wonder how he would know that?
> Cass
> Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@...> wrote:
> My views are:
> Yes Zaitsev. And thanks!
> Interesting is it to read the following conclusion from D. 
Caldwell's hand. 
> - - - - - - - 
> The Myth of the "Missing" Third Volume of The Secret Doctrine by 
Daniel H. Caldwell
> "Nevertheless, some students of HPB's writings have voiced concern 
about how much Besant and her assistants may have edited the 
manuscript. James M. Pryse in a review of the third volume of The 
Secret Doctrine (Theosophy, New York, September 1897, 314-6) wrote:
> If it had been printed as H.P.B. wrote it, then Theosophists 
generally would have prized it; but Mrs. Besant and others having 
edited it, they will regard it with a just suspicion.
> (It should be noted that, some thirty years later, Pryse reversed 
his view on this subject.)
> Another personal student of HPB's, Alice Leighton Cleather (H.P. 
Blavatsky: A Great Betrayal, l922, 75), testified:
> It so happens that while it [Volume III] was being set up [for 
publication] I was able actually to peruse one or two of the familiar 
long foolscap sheets which H.P.B. always covered with her small fine 
hand-writing. They were mutilated almost beyond recognition, few of 
her sentences remaining intact; and there were 'corrections'.
> More recently, Nicholas Weeks, who helped in the preparation of the 
manuscripts of volumes 13, 14, and 15 of HPB's Collected Writings, 
has expressed similar concerns to me (private correspondence):
> When we were working on BCW 14 we found many differences or changes 
between the "First Draft" [the Wurzburg Manuscript] and "SD III" 
[1897]. Some of the most radical are included in the Index to 14. 
see "Wurzburg MS Interpolations." On pp. 104 & 266-67 of BCW 14 are 
two examples of HPB's typically sharp criticisms of the Roman 
Catholic Church that did not appear in "SD III" [ 1897]. I find it 
impossible to believe that HPB deleted them, or approved of their 
removal. Thus the question arises, how many other "corrections" 
and "innovations" were made that HPB would not have permitted?. . . 
Without the "Wurzburg MS" there would have been not even a clue as to 
any tampering having occurred.
> The issue of the editing of the manuscript of Volume III (1897) 
needs to be carefully researched in the future."
> - - - - - - - - 
> Allow me to add:
> H. P. Blavatsky said: 
> "The Society founded to remedy the glaring evils of Christianity, 
to shun bigotry and intolerance, cant and superstition and to 
cultivate real universal love extending even to the dumb brute". 
> (The Collected Writings of H. P. Blavatsky, vol. 7, p.246) 
> Master KH wrote in a Mahatma Letter: 
> For the opposition represents enormous vested interests, and they 
have enthusiastic help from the Dugpas -- in Bhootan and the Vatican! 
> (Here is all of Mahtama Letter, No. 55. Dugpas are the same as 
selfish Magicians.)
> M. Sufilight
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Konstantin Zaitzev 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 7:33 PM
> Subject: Theos-World Re: Secret Doctrine Vol.3
> --- In, Cass Silva wrote:
> > According to Tsarion, SD3 was suppressed by Besant
> This is long ago refuted by D. Caldwell
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