Theos-Talk Archives (May 2008 Message tt00580)

Theosophical Society does not have functioning democracy. It is indeed
surprising why only John and Radha are in race. I know the reasons and
the reason is TS is not democratic. In America's elections in entire
history perhaps nobody above the age of 75 got elected as President of
America. There may or may not be exception. How is it that only two
candidates are there in the race and both of them are above 75 ? Whole
structure of ES, TS and Co-masonry is such that it makes TS
non-democratic. Also one can see that in TS when once person gets
elected, he/she remains President till  death. These things show that
TS is not democratic.

Anand Gholap 

 
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, MKR <mkr777@...> wrote:
>
> Few speak their mind, and you are one  of them.
> 
> mkr
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> 
> On 5/14/08, MarieMAJ41@... <MarieMAJ41@...> wrote:
> >
> >   Because, dear PJ, they did not want to. John controls many of the
> > General Secretaries already because he is more unscrupulous than
> > Radha....IMO. Perhaps she is more able to communicate with the
culture that
> > is India, and John is more able to communicate with the rest. As
for ethics,
> > in my opinion, John Algeo's ethics serves only himself.
> >
> > Marie
> >
> > And another question: if John Algeo is indeed the kind of person I
> > have experienced him to be, and many other once-bitten twice-shy
> > members or former members have reported, then why could the TS not
> > come up with a single other nominee to succeed Radha?
> >
> > PJ
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: kpauljohnson <kpauljohnson@... <kpauljohnson%40yahoo.com>>
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wed, 14 May 2008 9:23 am
> > Subject: Theos-World Re: TS Membership Trend
> >
> > Dear Doss,
> >
> > I find it hard to contribute anything constructive to this
> > discussion, and neither theos-l nor theos-talk seem inclined to
> > discuss anything but the upcoming election. So it was probably a bad
> > time to resubscribe, and I'll soon take another long hiatus until
> > this is over. But before taking leave, there are some questions I
> > have for anyone who might care to ask, which might be no one. These
> > are elephants in the room that it seems useful for both sides to
> > ignore.
> >
> > > the rest of the world had 24,448. Today, according to the 2007
> > Annual
> > > Report of the TS, the Indian Section has 12,444 members and the rest
> > > of the world 16,570."
> > >
> > > This shows that in India, the membership has increased by 59%.
> > > In rest of the world, it has declined by 32%.
> > >
> > Question: how much of that shrinkage is due to national sections
> > losing membership, and how much of it is due to Radha's (high-handed,
> > arrogant, secretive, unaccountable, IMO) treatment of national
> > sections that were expelled?
> >
> > Question two: can anyone testify that John Algeo is any less high-
> > handed, arrogant, secretive, and unaccountable in his attitudes
> > toward the TS and its members?
> >
> > > population has grown. In addition, with the coming down of Iron
> > Curtain,
> > > there is more democracy in East European countries. In spite of
> > this the
> > > membership has declined. Why?
> > >
> > Question three: how much is the failure to capitalize on new
> > opportunities (MOSTLY RUSSIA) for growth of the TS due to an innate
> > conservatism, arrogance, high-handedness, and unaccountability of the
> > leadership? Leadership that could not or would not be bothered to
> > deal with any of the possible changes that an influx of new members
> > might bring.
> >
> > > TS, internationally operated on a de-centralized model. The National
> > > Secretaries, once elected, in spite of the National Board, seem to
> > operate like in a fiefdom with board going along whatever the NS
> > wants.
> >
> > A fish rots from the head. Having the OH of the ES as the PTS is so
> > outright dangerous to the health of the organization because it sets
> > a standard that the TS is essentially a front organization. The
> > authority of the spiritual leader of the ES corrupts the
> > accountability of the elected leader of the TS. It pervades all the
> > relationships between the PTS and the rest of the organization, as
> > Annie Besant demonstrated remarkably thoroughly.
> >
> > > At this rate, by end of this century, TS may disappear around the
> > world except in India.
> >
> > Why has the presidency of Radha been so successful in terms of Indian
> > membership and so disastrous most everywhere else? Might it have to
> > do with consolidating what she sees as her power base and letting
> > everyone else go hang? What has she done right in India? How could
> > it be used as a model elsewhere?
> > >
> > And another question: if John Algeo is indeed the kind of person I
> > have experienced him to be, and many other once-bitten twice-shy
> > members or former members have reported, then why could the TS not
> > come up with a single other nominee to succeed Radha?
> >
> > PJ
> >
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