Theos-Talk Archives (May 2008 Message tt00576)

Well, as along this path I was already deprived of all one can 
possibly be deprived off, I don't have much to lose. It is my partner 
who supports my work all these years who is the real Hero in this 
story.

Anton


--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Martin <Mvandertak@...> wrote:
>
> Nice story, that is real sacrifice!
> I was asked last weekend when visiting a friend: 'what
> would you want to give if there was a world peace
> fund?'
> I immediately without hesitation said, myself.
> Then of course I asked him the same and he answered:
> 'I was asked the same question last night in one of my
> many travels around the globe and impulsively would
> have said the same, however there could never be
> worldpeace if they missed me...'
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- MKR <mkr777@...> wrote:
> 
> > Your points are well taken.
> > 
> > In this age of Internet, it is good for all for
> > everyone take an active
> > participation. Due to its inherent self-censoring
> > nature, in the end topics
> > will move in the right direction.
> > 
> > There is a story in India. To a great disciple, the
> > master taught some great
> > secrets. The disciple was told, if he discloses it
> > to the public, he will
> > instantaneously die. Disciple felt the secret can
> > benefit a lot of people
> > and he called everyone in town to assemble so that
> > he wanted everyone to
> > hear the secret before he dies. So all came.
> > Disciple climbed up on the roof
> > of a tall structure and shouted the secret so
> > everyone can hear. Lo and
> > behold, nothing happened; he did not die.
> > 
> > The moral of the story is sometimes you have to do
> > what you have to do, even
> > if someone thinks that some man-made rule is broken.
> > What man makes man can
> > break. Of course there may a price to pay. If one is
> > ready to pay the price,
> > one can go ahead.
> > 
> > mkr
> > 
> > 
> > On 5/14/08, Anton Rozman <anton_rozman@...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Ramadoss,
> > >
> > > >TS leaders have a heavy duty to stand for a very
> > high level of
> > > ethics and demonstrate to the world they do so. TS
> > and Theosophy
> > > cannot be effectively broadcast to the world when
> > there is a cloud
> > > over the level of ethics at which we operate.<
> > >
> > > While I agree with you that Dr. Dusan Zagar's
> > message to great extend
> > > dismiss extreme speculations about the President's
> > poor health, I
> > > anyway do not share your view about her fitness
> > for the reelection.
> > > There are several, already mentioned reasons for
> > such opinion, and
> > > the most recent one is that, in my view, she
> > started this election
> > > campaign behind the curtains with her circular
> > letter. And Dr. Dusan
> > > Zagar can possibly start to adopt ethical rules in
> > his own house as
> > > it was his wife, Mrs. Breda Zagar, who distributed
> > translation of
> > > this circular letter.
> > >
> > > Anton
> > >
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, MKR
> > > <mkr777@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well said Anton.
> > > >
> > > > Dr. Dusan Zagar's letter along with all the
> > other factual
> > > information we
> > > > know of, including the very recent eyewitness
> > account of Anand
> > > Gholap,
> > > > should put to rest any speculation about Radha
> > Burnier's health and
> > > her
> > > > fitness to be reelected.
> > > >
> > > > How I wish, the National Secretaries and others
> > who tried to paint
> > > Radha
> > > > Burnier to be in poor health with a view to
> > influence membership to
> > > elect
> > > > John Algeo, honestly and openly retract their
> > stand, which they
> > > have not
> > > > done so far..
> > > >
> > > > TS leaders have a heavy duty to stand for a very
> > high level of
> > > ethics and
> > > > demonstrate to the world they do so. TS and
> > Theosophy cannot be
> > > effectively
> > > > broadcast to the world when there is a cloud
> > over the level of
> > > ethics at
> > > > which we operate.
> > > >
> > > > MKR
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 5/14/08, Anton Rozman <anton_rozman@>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for bringing forward Dr. Zagar's well
> > sustained assessment
> > > of
> > > > > President's health condition - its pity that
> > it comes so late.
> > > > >
> > > > > >I am very surprised about some
> > disinformations of Radha's health
> > > > > which some members of TS are circulating on
> > internet. It is
> > > against
> > > > > all ethical rules.
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope all this unbrotherly actions on
> > internet will come to an
> > > end.
> > > > > Everyone of us should listen to our own heart
> > and not come to a
> > > > > decision under the influence of anybody.<
> > > > >
> > > > > I admit that public discussion on and
> > uncovering of one's health
> > > > > condition is ethically dubious but I think
> > that in the current
> > > > > situation there existed conflict of duties for
> > there was present
> > > > > still more unethical circulation of various
> > letters and
> > > estimations
> > > > > of the President's health condition out of
> > partial interests.
> > > > > Therefore publication of related documents
> > threw light on the
> > > whole
> > > > > process and actually gave to the members
> > opportunity to come to a
> > > > > more independent insight. More over, this
> > experience can lead to
> > > the
> > > > > establishment of higher ethical standards
> > regarding the election
> > > > > process and overall functioning of the TS in
> > the future.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anton
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com><theos-talk%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > > > "prmoliveira" <prmoliveira@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (Dr Du?an ?agar has given me permission to
> > post his message
> > > below.
> > > > > PO)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Dear friends,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am very surprised about some
> > desinformations of Radha's health
> > > > > > which some members of TS are circulating on
> > internet. It is
> > > against
> > > > > > all ethical rules.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As I was at Adyar last December and during
> > the Convention I
> > > would
> > > > > > like to say something about Radha's health
> > at that time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Radha showed me as medical doctor (both a
> > neurologist and
> > > > > > psychiatrist) the results of her last
> > medical examinations: the
> > > > > > arterial blood pressure, electrocardiogram,
> > rtg examinations,
> > > > > > laboratory tests ( hematologic,
> > sedimentation rate, biochemical
> > > > > > analysis), ultrasound examinations of
> > abdomen and some other
> > > > > > examinations. All results were normal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In that time I was often with her and I can
> > say that her
> > > thoughts
> > > > > > were clear. Her speech was coherent, her
> > memory was good and she
> > 
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