Theos-Talk Archives (May 2008 Message tt00562)

Your points are well taken.

In this age of Internet, it is good for all for everyone take an active
participation. Due to its inherent self-censoring nature, in the end topics
will move in the right direction.

There is a story in India. To a great disciple, the master taught some great
secrets. The disciple was told, if he discloses it to the public, he will
instantaneously die. Disciple felt the secret can benefit a lot of people
and he called everyone in town to assemble so that he wanted everyone to
hear the secret before he dies. So all came. Disciple climbed up on the roof
of a tall structure and shouted the secret so everyone can hear. Lo and
behold, nothing happened; he did not die.

The moral of the story is sometimes you have to do what you have to do, even
if someone thinks that some man-made rule is broken. What man makes man can
break. Of course there may a price to pay. If one is ready to pay the price,
one can go ahead.

mkr


On 5/14/08, Anton Rozman <anton_rozman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Ramadoss,
>
> >TS leaders have a heavy duty to stand for a very high level of
> ethics and demonstrate to the world they do so. TS and Theosophy
> cannot be effectively broadcast to the world when there is a cloud
> over the level of ethics at which we operate.<
>
> While I agree with you that Dr. Dusan Zagar's message to great extend
> dismiss extreme speculations about the President's poor health, I
> anyway do not share your view about her fitness for the reelection.
> There are several, already mentioned reasons for such opinion, and
> the most recent one is that, in my view, she started this election
> campaign behind the curtains with her circular letter. And Dr. Dusan
> Zagar can possibly start to adopt ethical rules in his own house as
> it was his wife, Mrs. Breda Zagar, who distributed translation of
> this circular letter.
>
> Anton
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, MKR
> <mkr777@...> wrote:
> >
> > Well said Anton.
> >
> > Dr. Dusan Zagar's letter along with all the other factual
> information we
> > know of, including the very recent eyewitness account of Anand
> Gholap,
> > should put to rest any speculation about Radha Burnier's health and
> her
> > fitness to be reelected.
> >
> > How I wish, the National Secretaries and others who tried to paint
> Radha
> > Burnier to be in poor health with a view to influence membership to
> elect
> > John Algeo, honestly and openly retract their stand, which they
> have not
> > done so far..
> >
> > TS leaders have a heavy duty to stand for a very high level of
> ethics and
> > demonstrate to the world they do so. TS and Theosophy cannot be
> effectively
> > broadcast to the world when there is a cloud over the level of
> ethics at
> > which we operate.
> >
> > MKR
> >
> >
> > On 5/14/08, Anton Rozman <anton_rozman@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for bringing forward Dr. Zagar's well sustained assessment
> of
> > > President's health condition - its pity that it comes so late.
> > >
> > > >I am very surprised about some disinformations of Radha's health
> > > which some members of TS are circulating on internet. It is
> against
> > > all ethical rules.
> > >
> > > I hope all this unbrotherly actions on internet will come to an
> end.
> > > Everyone of us should listen to our own heart and not come to a
> > > decision under the influence of anybody.<
> > >
> > > I admit that public discussion on and uncovering of one's health
> > > condition is ethically dubious but I think that in the current
> > > situation there existed conflict of duties for there was present
> > > still more unethical circulation of various letters and
> estimations
> > > of the President's health condition out of partial interests.
> > > Therefore publication of related documents threw light on the
> whole
> > > process and actually gave to the members opportunity to come to a
> > > more independent insight. More over, this experience can lead to
> the
> > > establishment of higher ethical standards regarding the election
> > > process and overall functioning of the TS in the future.
> > >
> > > Anton
> > >
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com><theos-talk%
> 40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "prmoliveira" <prmoliveira@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > (Dr Du?an ?agar has given me permission to post his message
> below.
> > > PO)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Dear friends,
> > > >
> > > > I am very surprised about some desinformations of Radha's health
> > > > which some members of TS are circulating on internet. It is
> against
> > > > all ethical rules.
> > > >
> > > > As I was at Adyar last December and during the Convention I
> would
> > > > like to say something about Radha's health at that time.
> > > >
> > > > Radha showed me as medical doctor (both a neurologist and
> > > > psychiatrist) the results of her last medical examinations: the
> > > > arterial blood pressure, electrocardiogram, rtg examinations,
> > > > laboratory tests ( hematologic, sedimentation rate, biochemical
> > > > analysis), ultrasound examinations of abdomen and some other
> > > > examinations. All results were normal.
> > > >
> > > > In that time I was often with her and I can say that her
> thoughts
> > > > were clear. Her speech was coherent, her memory was good and she
> > > > fluently spoke with me about her childhood, Krishnamurti, Sri
> Ram,
> > > > Theosophical Society, about current things in Adyar and TS. I
> > > noticed
> > > > her great sense of responsibility for the future of the TS.
> > > >
> > > > It was evident that her health was much better in comparison
> with
> > > the
> > > > year before at the Convention time when she was very weak.
> > > > Sometimes people recover totaly after stroke if it is mild. I
> think
> > > > in Radha's case the stroke was such.
> > > >
> > > > Her physical condition was also good inspite of her years. I
> walked
> > > > with her about 1 km and I must confess that I hardly went so
> fast
> > > > inspite of my not so bad condition. Such walk can never be
> > > > caracteristic of people who did not get over serious stroke.
> > > >
> > > > I hope all this unbrotherly actions on internet will come to an
> > > end.
> > > > Everyone of us should listen to our own heart and not come to a
> > > > decision under the influence of anybody.
> > > >
> > > > Yours fraternaly
> > > >
> > > > Du?an ?agar
> > > > Organizing Secretary, TS in Slovenia"
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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> >
>
> 
>


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