Theos-Talk Archives (May 2008 Message tt00213)

I think that this letter should be sent to the International Secretary with
copies to the Election Committee members and General Secretaries.

It is time to make all election matters fully transparent. Need 21st century
thinking. All documents relating to the election should be made available
for any voting member to see.

The old standard of trust and belief is no longer enough because of the
efforts to interfere and tilt the elections using unfounded inaccurate
information and the efforts of National Secretaries not actively
distributing critical info to their members, thus trying to affect the
election.

I also suggest that the National Secretaries who distributed inaccurate
unfounded information to their members to recuse themselves from all actions
relating to the election.

>From what I hear, in the past, some National Secretaries have left their
positions due to minor personal indiscretions as a result of human weakness
and compared to that, interfering with International President election is
very serious indeed, and they should even consider resigning. From what they
have done, they cannot have moral leadership of their members.

mkr

THERE IS NO RELIGION HIGHER THAN TRUTH






On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 7:39 AM, MKR <mkr777@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: prmoliveira <prmoliveira@yahoo.com>
> Date: Tue, May 6, 2008 at 6:59 AM
> Subject: [theos-l] A Much Higher Standard of Ethics is Urgently Required
> To: theos-l@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>  (Dr Edi Bilimoria has authorized me to post the message below. PO)
>
> 21 April 2008
>
> Dear Fellow Member,
>
> I have received a copy of the letter/e-mail dated 29 March 08 from
> Maxence Ondet, National Board Secretary, Theosophical Society in
> France. I fully appreciate the sensitivity of the contents. My
> considered response (on the English translated version) follows.
>
> GENERAL COMMENT
>
> The overriding tone of the letter sent out to all members of the
> French section is consistently (a) defamatory; (b) inaccurate; (c)
> subjective and biased; and (d) full of hearsay.
>
> I will now support my assertions with evidence.
>
> Defamatory
>
> Evidence
> Remarks such as: "deprived her of a large part of her memory", "a
> weakened mind or brain damage", "her mental state" appear liberally
> across the letter.
>
> Comment
> Radha Burnier's (RB) health is well known and there is no need to
> spell out and spread it out over all of the last seven paragraphs of
> the letter. One simple sentence of sincere concern would have
> sufficed.
>
> Inaccurate
>
> Evidence
> "In conversation she no longer understands anything but short and
> simple sentences", "an address that was wandering and repetitive, and
> showed a weakened mind or brain damage", "forgetfulness or confusion".
>
> Comment
> I did not attend Convention. However our National President Mr Colin
> Price was present and fed back no such comment about an "address that
> was wandering and repetitive".
>
> However I can PERSONNALLY attest to the fact that I had an in-depth,
> two hour (11 am to 1 pm) conversation with RB on 02 August 07 at No
> 17 Tekels Park regarding the problems concerning Tekels Park (TP). In
> view of the seriousness of the topic, I fully minuted this meeting,
> INCLUDING ALL OF RB'S STATEMENTS and communicated these Minutes to
> the National President.
>
> RB displayed clarity of mind and comprehension. She was able to:
>
> (a) evidence of long term memory recall - provide me with a summary
> of the background and history of events and personalities connected
> with TP going back over several years (which I know to be accurate
> from my own intimate association with TP).
>
> (b) evidence of short term memory recall - summarize the gist of
> conversations she had with two persons the previous day which again I
> know to be true since I am very well indeed acquainted with the said
> persons and their particular views and agendas.
>
> In view of (a) and (b) above, plus further discussions with RB about
> specific details regarding the TS in general and the English Section
> and TP, I regard the comments made by the French National Board as
> far too sweeping, subjective, unsupported by evidence, therefore
> inaccurate and presumptuous.
>
> SUBJECTIVE AND BIASED
>
> Evidence
> Example 1 "The National Board has a duty to inform you about Radha's
> state of health."
>
> Comment on Example 1
> The National Board ALSO, IN FAIRNESS THEN, HAS A DUTY TO INFORM
> MEMBERS ABOUT DR JOHN ALGEO'S (JA) PERSONAL CIRCUMSTANCES, AGE AND
> HEALTH. For a balanced perspective, we also need to know JA's age,
> whether he can withstand the Adyar climate and whether his personal
> and wife's circumstances can support his duties as an International
> President of the TS.
>
> Evidence
> Example 2 "The other candidate, John, is keeping his word: as he
> said to some leaders present at the Convention, he is not
> campaigning".
>
> Comment on Example 2
> 1. Betty Bland's overtly campaigning e-mail has come to us well after
> Convention.
> 2. This letter from the French National Board is blatant campaigning
> on behalf of JA.
> 3. The "NB" footnote at the close of the French National Board letter
> stating that Germany, Finland, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Sweden, the
> USA, Columbia and Argentina "have decided to write in similar vein to
> their members" is barefaced and unashamed campaigning on behalf of JA.
> 4. JA has his own multi-lingual website.
>
> GETTING OTHERS TO DO YOUR WORK AND PULL STRINGS ON YOUR BEHALF (OR
> NOT TO CURTAIL THEM DOING SO EVEN IF YOU HAVE NOT INITIATED SUCH
> ACTION), WHILST KEEPING YOUR OWN HANDS PHYSICALLY CLEAN, IN NO WAY
> EXONERATES AND ACQUITS A PERSON FROM FULL RESPONSIBILITY AND THE
> ENSUING CONSEQUENCES.
>
> I therefore regard the statement that "John, is keeping his word: as
> he said to some leaders present at the Convention, he is not
> campaigning" as completely untruthful ? either JA never so gave his
> word at Convention, or, he has broken his word (I do not know which,
> as I was not at Convention). The fact however is that campaigning and
> lobbying on behalf of JA is actively occurring ? to pretend otherwise
> is plain dishonesty. Campaigning by remote control is still
> campaigning.
>
> HEARSAY
>
> Evidence
> Plenty of examples such as: "she no longer writes speeches", "people
> with doubtful intentions took advantage of Radha's present state?this
> is probably happening right now, even without her knowledge".
>
> Comment
> Please may we have some evidence. Who said this? Where? When? What
> day? What time? In front of whom? Any witnesses regarding
> these "people with doubtful intentions"? Any evidence that such
> dubious persons are acting "even without her knowledge"?
>
> Was Maxence Ondet, as author of the letter, physically present at
> Convention to report on RB's difficulty in delivering her Convention
> address? Or is Mme Ondet acting on hearsay? Surely this talk was
> recorded such that we can independently judge RB's performance for
> ourselves?
>
> Is Mme Ondet QUALIFIED in medicine and psychology to make her
> statements about "brain damage and weakened mind"; or was she acting
> upon the authority and professional advice of someone so qualified?
> If so, please can we know who this medically qualified person is? IN
> CONTRAST YOU ARE REQUESTED TO INSPECT RADHA'S MEDICAL CERTIFICATES
> ISSUED A FEW DAYS AGO BY HER DOCTORS IN INDIA ? PLEASE SEE ATTACHMENT.
>
> In conclusion, such subjective and emotional statements thrown in and
> unsupported without even a shred of evidence would appear to be
> calculated to cause mischief and are, in a word, disgraceful.
>
> CONCLUSIONS
>
> 1. One would have expected the International Vice President to defend
> the International President against unjust attack. I see no evidence
> of this, unless I be mistaken.
>
> 2. WHOEVER wins the election (but see 4. below) must reside
> substantially at Adyar, the spiritual home, and focus of higher
> energies and forces that guide the Society (not an emotional
> statement ? plenty of evidence about this in our literature).
>
> What would you say if the President of the USA chose to reside mainly
> at the American Embassy in London, or at Camp David, and governed his
> country by e-mail through an appointed deputy in the White House?
>
> What would you think of the Queen of England vacating Buckingham
> Palace to live elsewhere and coming to London only to open Parliament?
>
> 3. The letter from the National Board in France would appear to me
> to be motivated by an individual, or individuals with personal issues
> camouflaged beneath the mask of appearing to act in the best
> interests of the destiny of the Theosophical Society. The closing
> paragraph of the French letter speaks volumes. "For sure, we loved
> Radha. We probably still do." I have never known love to be in the
> past tense; and why, may I ask, the "probability"?
>
> 4. In view of the potentially litigious nature of the allegations and
> related issues and the unbalanced and factually erroneous nature of
> information sent out to our members, many of whom may already have
> voted on the grounds of such partial and one-sided information, I
> ASK FORMALLY THAT THE CURRENT ELECTION BE NULLIFIED WITHOUT THE
> COUNTING OF VOTES AND A FUTURE ELECTION BE HELD AT SUCH A TIME AS
> FAIRNESS AND BALANCE SUPERVENES.
>
> With warm regards
>
> Dr Edi D. Bilimoria DPhil, FIMechE, FEI, FRI, CEng, EurIng
>
> International Lecturer and author for the Theosophical Society
> Speaker at two International Conventions
> Twice on National Council and Executive Committee of the English
> Section
> Former President of the Blavatsky Lodge in London
> Current Director of THEOVERSITY ? a seven year course in Theosophical
> studies
>
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